From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46A32267 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 02:33:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148110.authsmtp.com (outmail148110.authsmtp.com [62.13.148.110]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F1A115 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 02:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt20.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u4C2XMdo006121; Thu, 12 May 2016 03:33:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u4C2XKxR064533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 May 2016 03:33:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EF5140109; Thu, 12 May 2016 02:31:59 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <7a9bf5ac-5d23-c7cd-e297-f7dd6503919b@thinlink.com> References: <20160510185728.GA1149@fedora-21-dvm> <7a9bf5ac-5d23-c7cd-e297-f7dd6503919b@thinlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Peter Todd Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 02:33:13 +0000 To: Tom Harding , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev Message-ID: <0572DC3D-1E25-44CA-AE08-154BF663148C@petertodd.org> X-Server-Quench: e501a7da-17e9-11e6-bcde-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdwAUFVQNAgsB AmAbW1deU157W2I7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcUQEbA3R6 TnweVB13dAYIfH50 ZQg3W3BaDUMuJFt8 RRtdCGwHMGF9OjNL BV1YdwJRcQRMLU5E Y1gxNiYHcQ5VPz4z GA41ejw8IwAXDS1W QwcCZXsJQE0hGTkn W1gDBy8iGUAbTiMv RwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 02:33:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 11 May 2016 22:27:09 GMT-04:00, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev wrote: >On 5/10/2016 2:43 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> >> If we change the protocol then the message to the ecosystem is that >> ASIC optimizations should be kept secret. > >Further to that point, if THIS optimization had been kept secret, >nobody >would be talking about doing anything, as with countless other >optimizations. The optimisation has been independently discovered two or three times (Spondoolies and maybe Bitmain). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQE9BAEBCgAnIBxQZXRlciBUb2RkIDxwZXRlQHBldGVydG9kZC5vcmc+BQJXM+tK AAoJEGOZARBE6K+yz4MH/j9TstqbVNG3nU+SJ9+Q9aZ0mZSQfR+4qgybGridjo7H TzGCnBVCLHt0LnbmZheFv/k9p+m2PojvGGKfODLIDFDHVPHv2wKflKIANIqxpXh/ Bl1SObDoKlRyby4fT22dW5SVSJsjVwTrYwTr2fmRfroeCLgJrHrr03AD7qmMf7CN MPrlpitLHZiEoSThTas3pTEEgL2EBgfZnxaaj96jQaMJloz0WjQaocllahl/gsme 40BQ9TnSHZ02bBf9iEN/FqGhrEN8m2JL7AEyOCuGwrWJtfQ5b9kSpL2QSpuXSfQ7 1d+OialY2G2L3QMPlnBMKdWGscUyapkYax3FmyA6wxI= =j9k+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----