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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Miners forced to run non-core code in order to get segwit activated
@ 2017-06-20 19:49 Ryan J Martin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan J Martin @ 2017-06-20 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Friedenbach; +Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion

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I concur with Mark's reply. Just to underscore this: Miners arent going to bother to signaling or changing a setting unless they have to. Anything that requires time--especially if requiring a restart/any time not mining or risks a crash---reduces income. So why would they change any settings unless they have to?

-Ryan J. Martin


On Jun 20, 2017 1:26 PM, Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
I think it is very naïve to assume that any shift would be temporary.
We have a hard enough time getting miners to proactively upgrade to
recent versions of the reference bitcoin daemon. If miners interpret
the situation as being forced to run non-reference software in order
to prevent a chain split because a lack of support from Bitcoin Core,
that could be a one-way street.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Hampus Sjöberg via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I don't think it's a huge deal if the miners need to run a non-Core node
> once the BIP91 deployment of Segwit2x happens. The shift will most likely be
> temporary.
>
> I agree that the "-bip148"-option should be merged, though.
>
> 2017-06-20 17:44 GMT+02:00 Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:
>>
>> Are we going to merge BIP91 or a -BIP148 option to core for inclusion in
>> the next release or so?
>>
>> Because a large percentage of miners are indifferent, right now miners
>> have to choose between BIP148 and Segwit2x if they want to activate Segwit.
>>
>> Should we be forcing miners to choose to run non-core code in order to
>> activate a popular feature?
>>
>> - Erik
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* [bitcoin-dev] Miners forced to run non-core code in order to get segwit activated
@ 2017-06-20 15:44 Erik Aronesty
  2017-06-20 16:49 ` Hampus Sjöberg
  2017-06-20 21:49 ` Gregory Maxwell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Aronesty @ 2017-06-20 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion

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Are we going to merge BIP91 or a -BIP148 option to core for inclusion in
the next release or so?

Because a large percentage of miners are indifferent, right now miners have
to choose between BIP148 and Segwit2x if they want to activate Segwit.

Should we be forcing miners to choose to run non-core code in order to
activate a popular feature?

- Erik

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2017-06-20 22:29     ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-06-20 22:48       ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-06-20 22:57         ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-06-20 23:01           ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-06-21  1:36           ` Erik Aronesty
2017-06-21  2:11             ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-06-21  4:05               ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-06-27 15:42                 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-06-27 16:31                   ` Jorge Timón
2017-06-27 19:26                     ` Erik Aronesty
2017-06-20 22:34     ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-06-20 22:53       ` Hampus Sjöberg

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