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Mon, 27 Jun 2022 09:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 09:46:46 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Greg Sanders , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C7738AD-E9C2-4A21-9B4C-64CB8100FC47@petertodd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Playing with full-rbf peers for fun and L2s security X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 13:55:49 -0000 On June 27, 2022 8:03:38 AM EDT, Greg Sanders wro= te: >One key difference seems to be that properly punishing someone based on >mempool behavior seems much more difficult=2E As we all know there is no = "the >mempool"=2E No, that's not relevant here: the DoS condition is the existence of a (min= ed) double spend for a given txout used in a coin join=2E That condition is= entirely under the control of the wallet, and can be totally avoided by th= e wallet regardless of mempool behavior=2E