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From: ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>
To: ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail.com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Design for a CoinSwap implementation for massively improving Bitcoin privacy and fungibility
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 14:50:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0U3wfLU9DpPZ7pwMOAr4xned-mOcHrpje4aLLiXZOt1qGuMhhyh36kAYJMEyv9bNjH2pMEzkkKK2rkAt9BD2pv_XknjdeqxEkEFsfSr4JAc=@protonmail.com> (raw)
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Good morning Chris again,


> For the avoidance of theft, it is probably better for Bob to wait for Alice-side funding tx to confirm, probably deeply because reorgs suck.


Over in Lightning-land, we have a concept called "irrevocably committed".
This is a state where a newly-created contract can no longer be cancelled, by publishing an older state.
In Lightning, there is a short timeframe where a new state, and its directly previous state, are both still valid, until the previous state is revoked.
Only once the previous state (that does not contain the contract) has been revoked, and only the latest state is valid, can a forwarding node actually forward the payment.


This is roughly equivalent to the funding tx for the CoinSwap being confirmed.
Until a transaction is confirmed, the UTXOs it spends (i.e. the previous state) can still be validly spent by other alternate transactions.


Regards,
ZmnSCPxj


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-03 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-25 13:21 [bitcoin-dev] Design for a CoinSwap implementation for massively improving Bitcoin privacy and fungibility Chris Belcher
2020-05-30 16:00 ` Ruben Somsen
2020-05-31  2:30   ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-05-31 21:19     ` Ruben Somsen
2020-06-01  2:34       ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-01 10:19         ` Ruben Somsen
2020-06-02 22:24     ` Chris Belcher
2020-06-03  4:53       ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-03 14:50         ` ZmnSCPxj [this message]
2020-06-04 16:37           ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-05 22:39         ` Chris Belcher
2020-06-06  1:40           ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-06  3:59             ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-06  4:25               ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-10 10:15             ` Chris Belcher
2020-06-10 10:58               ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-10 11:19                 ` Chris Belcher
2020-06-10  0:43 ` Mr. Lee Chiffre
2020-06-10  0:46   ` Mr. Lee Chiffre
2020-06-10  7:09   ` ZmnSCPxj
2020-06-10 11:15   ` Chris Belcher
2020-06-19 15:33 ` Jonas Nick

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