From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B80616AB for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:45:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:06:57 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from forward2h.mail.yandex.net (forward2h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.147]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9BD199 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web7h.yandex.ru (web7h.yandex.ru [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::17]) by forward2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CADE0700F5B; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:38:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web7h.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0BC5369204AE; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:38:02 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1443544683; bh=AW82HYiPEubduptPvS2SpWLb+j/iPWcSRCSy/22p/iM=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Date; b=QkkESX9zTh/Q7Nkf0C8JwYd2h6tj0vhz6WeQT9LkV6lmSBzQTNd5eXzI1Jka3ddPn Z3kGoWzalc5ndxMqhkKXgfy3VKoLzYvq2CNd6lAGk0c1xsNYCYss7PyrgDIgQTTHYb SVAV98P+iyAxRE03iq1NGAi9ff75nJkOvmLyZ5Pk= Received: by web7h.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:38:02 +0300 From: Santino Napolitano Envelope-From: santino-napolitano@yandex.com To: Jeff Garzik , Bitcoin development mailing list In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1026821443544682@web7h.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:38:02 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] On bitcoin-dev list admin and list noise X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:45:05 -0000 I'm not intending to completely dismiss your concerns but as a data point: I read this list daily and it usually takes 15 minutes or less while I drink a cup of coffee. My concern is that this is one of the (maybe *the*) last uncensored persisted forums related to technical bitcoin discussion with wide viewership. It is increasingly difficult for an average somewhat technical person to attempt to hold the bitcoin development community accountable for its actions or have their voice heard. It would really be a shame if messages like this were relegated to a black hole where things like the exchange rate and various scammy spam goes to fester. >Debates over bitcoin philosophy, broader context, etc. will start seeing grumpy list admins squawk about "off-topic!" Who will draw this line? It's unclear to me who the list admins are.