From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C66E440D for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2017 23:07:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx-out03.mykolab.com (mx.kolabnow.com [95.128.36.1]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C55510A for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2017 23:07:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kolabnow.com X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mx03.mykolab.com (mx03.mykolab.com [10.20.7.101]) by mx-out03.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AD492141F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:07:27 +0100 (CET) From: Tom Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:08:29 +0100 Message-ID: <10846872.WfBIm3d0e7@cherry> In-Reply-To: References: <7169224.bI6Cz5OEL8@cherry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:17:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Classic 1.2.0 released X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:07:31 -0000 On Saturday, 7 January 2017 21:15:11 CET Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: > There actually isn't an activation threshold in Bitcoin Classic. Thats partly correct. There is just not a formal one, there very much is an informal and practical threshold. I, and I'm not alone in this, think that a formal vote or an algorithm to decide something will happen or not reeks too much like central planning and more importantly that it is too inflexible for real world use. Its fine for simple upgrades, and we have seen lots of success there. It would be a mistake to think that miners can just start mining with Classic and make something that Core doesn't understand. That would have negative effects and thus won't happen. Less social people will ask why and maybe ask how we avoid this. They misunderstand the social and economic parts of Bitcoin. The block size is an ongoing debate. I find it very hard to believe that all the people replying in outrage to my release announcement completely missed this. I see no point in bringing it up in a BIP or on this list as some central cabal that can make decisions for or against. It is in actual fact being decided in the real world, out of yours and my control. Classic is a tool to that end. No more. No less. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel