From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D91CB8E3 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:26:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23FE6171 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AFC2108D; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:26:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sprovoost.nl; h= content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=RGE1kIQwon+e2OnVyoZ52dohy1r76AlZsTZc4rYggC4=; b=OKvKXN+2 6+vJxEf/G+2fAd0hydxZ8V+4PUoSsxtg1NHPF+cffR9UoBiJ9OB1ivyesxOgUd3t 6xIWHsV4m6r7PzmUeoFnoFxaowvRwtUK9fe3o5TIIni5Dmrrbt/Lt+9nrXgSkM7z WJzCTytRgoxvMFaNk5IgG5+zCVs4818kZWyCQ2tHaJMI6uVGjOusGmPdDZBMu2/5 kn7/ey7OCZFRvCYwoGVPqeN45tW88NJ9To6USHhguXemSRad7PEiICqU+BJQpBEU 3da+GW2VXzyY1UfkcGvf1JcM8EqxvM53FnLFh/VuxK4xaE89SVuP5DAmINTZ2kLy YL6oug4jNUAffw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=RGE1kIQwon+e2OnVyoZ52dohy1r76 AlZsTZc4rYggC4=; b=Gm6iN9wRvg/J7d/bPdch/4BwKsR/oKx9nv/8AOKjIuvFZ JNx370OgeX6ZJpOiKnLFu2wAym350PM7VfwkssVOIe/w7SQ0Kpr9oHNb59C/supT k31lnHCiYPkwpCxl7TdnSZkfO9Xbqb6+kv+A+gmOb2077kkCvVir+QqTm4uFKG4Y mXg+FHdk/7wBAeUQXeFxb0POoFGmUzlbP1e7c0E39Nr76TIQeRQYCO7edNM8g6jY cjSpDusHFpk/cLL8h3n+V8/ThnajpUzKx3qyR/tr7VkRawtuVkBCS3KC8vP68cfX SiJfLzGbNOs04v6Pu/Butbg41Q0lp7j00IxCl2j0w== X-ME-Sender: Received: from [10.46.107.158] (unknown [212.123.217.146]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9F8197E4C8; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:26:20 -0500 (EST) From: Sjors Provoost Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_77CF1115-B045-4FEC-AFD0-47DD9A17C004"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:26:19 +0100 References: To: Douglas Roark , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1085B203-DB5E-42AB-A9F3-467D09246314@sprovoost.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:54:24 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A DNS-like decentralized mapping for wallet addresses? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:26:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_77CF1115-B045-4FEC-AFD0-47DD9A17C004 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you thought about combining this with BIP-47? You could associate = payment codes with email via DNS. It would be nice if there was a way to get rid of the announcement = transaction in BIP-47 and establish a shared secret out of bound. That = would simplify things, at the cost of an additional burden of storing = more than an HD seed to recover a wallet that received funds this way. Perhaps the sender can email to the recipient the information they need = to retrieve the funds. The (first) transaction could have a time locked = refund in it, in case the payment code is stale. Sjors > Op 1 dec. 2017, om 04:08 heeft Douglas Roark via bitcoin-dev = het volgende geschreven: >=20 > On 2017/11/30 14:20, mandar mulherkar via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> I was wondering in terms of mass adoption, instead of long wallet >> addresses, maybe there should be a DNS-like decentralized mapping >> service to provide a user@crypto address? >=20 > A few years ago, I was part of an effort with Armory and Verisign to > make something similar to what you're describing. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wiley-paymentassoc-00 is where you = can > find the one and only official draft. I worked on a follow-up with = some > changes and some nice appendices, explaining some nice tricks one = could > use to make payment management flexible. For various reasons, it never > got published. I think it's an interesting draft that could be turned > into something useful. Among other things, it was able to leverage = BIP32 > and allow payment requests to be generated that automatically pointed > payees to the correct branch. DNSSEC may have some issues but, AFAIK, > it's as the easiest way to bootstrap identity to a common, reasonably > secure standard. >=20 > -- > --- > Douglas Roark > Cryptocurrency, network security, travel, and art. > https://onename.com/droark > joroark@vt.edu > PGP key ID: 26623924 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev --Apple-Mail=_77CF1115-B045-4FEC-AFD0-47DD9A17C004 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE7ZvfetalXiMuhFJCV/+b28wwEAkFAlo3pdsACgkQV/+b28ww EAlozhAAmpIyQKQEf1Wuigb6FMMqkXb0FTLW4UMzZSLvwvxikcaQLwpoc+cI7ewb 0Wsp9/ryEZ/N8Me0pT9hlelcl1JMDRETkfBog0rp5Gt1aH30YVRmJqOOC8vSqIYu 62UZjmoAF850yydM+rKHG7TMvJIkNKtpBI5P/xz154gpJGO7qD+k6xNggZ75jiho aklh96cqjWJZQwZtcXvEfw/C+0IIRVQUBPIvK8alPYhNw2PpkrjgOv8Z2RrIoN4U sYq3erLuQPU8Wra0qqREKel3oIXKVXhHOHzn8UNBJ1WTp4ME60JtNaQwJtcwJnx7 4lAfQnHhtYw+BXAspS1JfpkmIGEnTKtIEOI3PqKKh0E68w3/pDGbIx5w4+JbsKP5 cfKIvO5xmIi0HV0yYbJrXvpHy+13xQnvvKopa7jK+MqMGZGw3O2iIFDKAheFU78d O6rMTAgqsFVQys7G1j8gwENvq1ZGjzlXbSp2n/EMTV7qaPIZcZe97W44N4iPEi6S yaoH0yqMckcrkQfrNS0Wl9+d3k5WROgaxp+X9ybA8PvcWJeGFticV5KE8O2zW0v7 Hq4vvjE2rTNho8GOoilgq56FwX8HvIl+YZaQanp7VVtm7BBqnDkHY4JCX4R/LJlx 8acucAB/gOT0mGQ8X+qtMvswf8GZXHHfZXSIdfQbo60mnYX+KzA= =AcV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_77CF1115-B045-4FEC-AFD0-47DD9A17C004--