From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038BC000A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTP id D6CB184C4B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:18:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mattcorallo.com Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8SMTP id 3FqE59JkVOmk for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail.as397444.net (mail.as397444.net [IPv6:2620:6e:a000:dead:beef:15:bad:f00d]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPS id 91CE184C54 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.as397444.net (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPSA id A510E51E731; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 15:18:33 +0000 (UTC) X-DKIM-Note: Keys used to sign are likely public at https://as397444.net/dkim/ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mattcorallo.com; s=1617892864; t=1617895113; bh=Ttc/NttS0Og3i2kcDZ+6x2+jRm7hc3zY4+8E0f+ik1w=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=nPQGvS2hs0Ejgfja5/eOC5Yxfew4LlrKilEl18B4PWkYW5vZxqa/P+8Bm/Dy7W3hZ DuFlonm0rDVMZmyq86VMkMMXoYxGm9VMB5qqJJ7vTevYKC1gxU5LZ/dA8IqZjP/Wvv 2BnSspDxljgnvZ/9zvQllUY/7jblC5qZPhcohoKG1UzTe16LwWMOP98Czon/CrBkeA 5UBT5tZh1ltNl2xKGVebyqyckTX6ElSZ6WYP2ubdt2/EXiRCgYk+Hf5YluGMPJuGvs cJYWN25si0yCX7pHdSWAIkVTlw9tmFrpe8P29G43t5G/X/Ytiw9Ov+pqyug1WkK5dl iJy7HBXelMDJQ== Message-ID: <125be010-93b9-f7dd-70d4-81a63a603621@mattcorallo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 11:18:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Andrew Poelstra , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Michael Folkson References: From: Matt Corallo In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Update on "Speedy" Trial: The circus rolls on X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 15:18:37 -0000 Probably worth noting, but while the coin toss was acceptable to many people as "who cares, just move on", the two authors of actual code for the two proposals here also came to an agreement on a way forward, so its not like it was a "coin toss to overrule everyone on 'the other side'". On 4/8/21 10:30, Andrew Poelstra via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:40:42PM +0100, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> >> All of this makes me extremely uncomfortable and I dread to think what >> individuals and businesses all over the world who have plans to >> utilize and build on Taproot are making of all of this. As an >> individual I would like to distance myself from this circus. I will >> try to keep the mailing list informed though of further developments >> re Speedy Trial in Core or progress on an alternative client. >> > > Thank you for your updates. > > > For what it's worth, as somebody who wants to use Taproot I don't care *at > all* about activation parameters, and I especially don't care about block > height vs MTP. > > If a coin toss is what it takes for people to move past this that's fine > by me. > > > >