From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QmE3P-0000K7-J0 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:02:19 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from nm20-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.208]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with smtp (Exim 4.76) id 1QmE3O-0007jl-GQ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:02:19 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2011 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.10] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2011 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2011 00:02:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 355223.99081.bm@omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87096 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jul 2011 00:02:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 2KNwaZkVM1mit2SBiQqRIMK_9YXMl6Ai9unTURYiEVf7Mhw TQlYH6MoEh5vzpsLoCbFPshYREyYw1kuSOGUNOnEfhC7wJU0BIKcpj4OXFh0 Dz9ClK4KCDtS.n0Lc7c9Clhnaid_7NrLgHke9zrJw_uto0uNKjQQRowmuzL7 t5IpBzVvzY9fGwkHNm4tqsOR8dUXb3cG.tH3ZlYyB52Wl_sSjgqWx0jywkzH KJci3jW0MEd7eH6psNC7S0NGBKuP7oJtUbZ0vsXcZCqqxwLh5gW3lyDLjS3K uZdqBwrA.yl22ak2amg0WETVJVkzpg2P__7C0G4urJaa7h3_svR6z9HH3R8c mXtBJQUmwVna6bafMKT7rYPTL_cRwWYoINv01lrawo6LoI_EBvJhMI.X2L7R Jv7pjRFJRquxrSRnM7oABtxqiRAxlW.jYCe_.ToXDjSmPG4gMMmUr7S7sTBZ MVrxrkMmmgpg- Received: from [95.49.120.52] by web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:02:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 References: <1311765274.9830.3.camel@mei> <1311811317.72375.YahooMailNeo@web121005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1311811333.75173.YahooMailNeo@web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Amir Taaki To: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" In-Reply-To: <1311811317.72375.YahooMailNeo@web121005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-697859531-1311811333=:75173" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (zgenjix[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.138.91.208 listed in list.dnswl.org] -1.2 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1QmE3O-0007jl-GQ Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Fw: Seeking advice: Encouraging bug-fixing over new features X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amir Taaki List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:02:19 -0000 --0-697859531-1311811333=:75173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message -----=0AFrom: Amir Taaki =0ATo: John Smith =0ASent: Thursday, July 28, 201= 1 2:01 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Seeking advice: Encouraging = bug-fixing over new features=0A=0A=0AI already tried the bounties route- ma= de a forum thread offering $4000 worth of bounties and it got very few=A0 r= esponses before dropping off the page.=0A=0A=0AAlso, http://forum.bitcoin.o= rg/?topic=3D4761.0 and http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=3D4543.0=0A=0AIn the= end I came to the conclusion that the only was is to bring in projects and= pay people to work fulltime on Bitcoin under an organisation.=0A=0A=0A=0A_= _______________________________=0AFrom: John Smith = =0ATo: Joel Joonatan Kaartinen =0ACc: Bitcoin Dev= =0ASent: Wednesday, July 27, 20= 11 4:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Seeking advice: Encouraging= bug-fixing over new features=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Joe= l Joonatan Kaartinen wrote:=0A=0APerhaps even ad= d a way for anyone add to the bounty attached to a bug on=0A>the bug tracke= r? Also, a listing page for bugs with their bounties might=0A>be nice too.= =0A>=0A=0AGood idea. I'm not sure if the github bug tracker supports extens= ion attributes, but it'd be a great place to add it. Also, people can let k= now that they're already working on a feature using a comment, to prevent d= ouble work.=0A=0AThe biggest problem will be organizational, in getting the= BTC together for bounties; only a high profile member such as Gavin will h= ave enough trust to ask for support. Or maybe there's something left in the= faucet? :-)=0A=0AUnrelated: what also might help is publishing a roadmap. = Plan a few "bug fix only" releases before scheduling addition of new featur= es. It's also helpful for people that wonder that direction the project is = going in...=0A=0AJS =0A=0A=0A----------------------------------------------= --------------------------------=0AGot Input?=A0 Slashdot Needs You.=0ATak= e our quick survey online.=A0 Come on, we don't ask for help often.=0APlus,= you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek.=0Ahttp://p.sf.net/s= fu/slashdot-survey=0A_______________________________________________=0ABitc= oin-development mailing list=0ABitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net=0A= https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development --0-697859531-1311811333=:75173 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>
To: John Smith <witchspace81@gmail.com>
= Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011= 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [= Bitcoin-development] Seeking advice: Encouraging bug-fixing over new featur= es

I already tr= ied the bounties route- made a forum thread offering $4000 worth of bountie= s and it got very few  responses before dropping off the page.

Also, http://forum.bitcoin.= org/?topic=3D4761.0 and http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=3D4543.0

In the end I came to the conclusio= n that the only was is to bring in projects and pay people to work fulltime= on Bitcoin under an organisation.

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From: John Smith=0A <witchspace81@gmail.com&g= t;
To: Joel Joonatan Kaa= rtinen <joel.kaartinen@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.n= et>
Sent: Wednesday, = July 27, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Seeking advice: Encouraging bug-fixing ove= r new features

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011= at 11:14 AM, Joel Joonatan Kaartinen <joel.kaartinen@gmail.com> wr= ote:
=0APerhaps even add a way for anyone add to the bounty at= tached to a bug on
=0Athe bug tracker? Also, a listing page for bugs wit= h their bounties might
=0Abe nice too.

Good ide= a. I'm not sure if the github bug tracker supports extension attributes, bu= t it'd be a great place to add it. Also, people can let know that they're a= lready working on a feature using a comment, to prevent double work.
=0A=
The biggest problem will be organizational, in getting the BTC together= for bounties; only a high profile member such as Gavin will have enough tr= ust to ask for support. Or maybe there's something left in the faucet? :-)<= br>=0A=0A
Unrelated: what also might help is publishing a roadmap. Plan = a few "bug fix only" releases before scheduling addition of new features. I= t's also helpful for people that wonder that direction the project is going= in...
=0A
JS

=0A

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