From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaFuf-00050X-Sp for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:08:05 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bluematt.me designates 173.246.101.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.246.101.161; envelope-from=bitcoin-list@bluematt.me; helo=mail.bluematt.me; Received: from vps.bluematt.me ([173.246.101.161] helo=mail.bluematt.me) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1RaFuf-0008Pt-0y for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:08:05 +0000 Received: from [152.23.99.207] (dhcp05033.highsouth-resnet.unc.edu [152.23.99.207]) by mail.bluematt.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 181AF3E0 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:47:30 +0100 (CET) From: Matt Corallo To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: References: <1323731781.42953.YahooMailClassic@web120920.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:52:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1323733965.3353.15.camel@BMThinkPad.lan.bluematt.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1RaFuf-0008Pt-0y Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [BIP 15] Aliases X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:08:06 -0000 On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 00:37 +0100, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrote: > I don't think Amir wants to put it into the protocol, but I still > don't like much the proposal if it has to rely on servers. > As an aside, even if firstbits it's not useful enough for the human > memory, it is still useful for QR-codes like in the case of green > addresses's POS instant payments. Firstbits isn't acceptable for anything. As Amir originally pointed out, it doesn't scale well and worst of all it fills the blockchain with a ton of crap to get 1 satoshi at an address so that it is "registered". =20 >=20 > Would it be too strange to use namecoin? > Some devices may need to rely on block exploring servers, but it is > the easiest decentralized solution that comes to mind. Firstbits is unacceptable because it causes unnecessary harm to each Bitcoin node. However, if one were to use a chain specifically crafted for such a purpose isn't terrible. That said, it still doesn't scale well and if it becomes popular virtually every implementation would have to rely on trusted servers at which point you are better off going back to an HTTPS/DNSSEC-based implementation Matt