From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RsEgM-0005vm-8D for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:27:38 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.32]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with smtp (Exim 4.76) id 1RsEgG-0006ti-NA for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:27:38 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2012 14:27:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2012 14:27:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2012 14:27:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 79192.86087.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 71901 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2012 14:27:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .9XkXqYVM1lVvPQNv7vVityl203hvFY9T6REXWgRZ3rg_ug 8OvoBH4eq_sfHoLSnJFojl52LTJ8BM6nxG107BM5RDW8VdVJjSNZ3ArE_3si Kb9tLC1mYSWK3LVRbryPSD6pnbm74UExwAb8bj6xEiYrO2n_Vbo0kNa3xAPm eSyMGtUzloUu4rwtZ8M603ZD7TTRMCurLPGUO6eseBICX9b7G1xPHMgMdkCY fHuGJGyhMwY7IjB4Qt4Y6TMOudnDECHe0wAmPS6kFzavBvIndAHdX.7ezyv7 W4Whd3vKDwpe2SrKBJm2dCwHuM5o2G8XUXX_n2vdGkvaA5iyjlwhC507oPXH h0eWtC613_0_Ik32syDLHgS3FOareqU7Rxx4Pd9qDaVPl5GYm28xx0LphVg- - Received: from [92.20.121.197] by web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:27:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.331537 Message-ID: <1328020046.70720.YahooMailNeo@web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:27:26 -0800 (PST) From: Amir Taaki To: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.138.229.32 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (zgenjix[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Headers-End: 1RsEgG-0006ti-NA Subject: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 20 Rejected, process for BIP 21N X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amir Taaki List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:27:38 -0000 BIP 20 really has no support among implementations such as Bitcoin-Qt, Elec= trum, MultiBit or Bitcoin-JS. As the most active and visible user facing GU= I projects (all with some form of URI Scheme), their opinion carries the mo= st weight. To a lesser degree Bitcoin-Qt has the large majority of users to= o (although that's a line of reasoning I'd discourage).=0A=0ANormally we sh= ould probably Reject BIP 21 and re-submit a new standard (for history's sak= e), but as a) BIP 21 is largely a copy paste of BIP 20 sans some sections b= ) it is still a draft, probably the best thing here is if you all agree on = something to run it by BlueMatt and then we'll make it the new BIP 21.=0A= =0AI can see a consensus forming on most parts. Just the send private key i= s contentious, and there's the topic of adding a time to expire field for m= erchants (this is a very good idea IMO).=0A=0AAlso BIP 20 is problematic be= cause it is incompatible with about every standard on the web. All the HTML= , URI and everything uses decimal numbers alone. I see no reason for breaki= ng with tradition. Note that everytime I have to write Color or Vectorize (= as a British speaker) in my code, I die a little inside. But it's conventio= n and American English =3D International English. Also it would be cool if = all code used a *real* international language (like Esperanto) but the worl= d ain't perfect! We live in a decimal-counting English-speaking Windows-usi= ng God-worshipping world!=0A=0A(no offense to=A0decimal-counting English-sp= eaking Windows-using God-worshipping world- I do half those things too :)