[Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Amir Taaki]

Hi,

Can I remove the hackathon from bitcoin.org and put up the conference instead?

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Vladimir Marchenko]

Hi,

 Why bitcoin.org promotes some private enterprises and not others?
May, I for example, have 20% of over the fold space on bitcoin.org
homepage for Bitcoin Magazine prmotions? Pretty please? </sarcasm>

Kind Regard,
Vladimir Marchenko.


On 15 July 2012 18:52, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can I remove the hackathon from bitcoin.org and put up the conference instead?
>
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Jeff Garzik]

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can I remove the hackathon from bitcoin.org and put up the conference instead?

ACK on removing outdated material

Vladimir does raise a fair point, though.  Hackathon seems appropriate
for bitcoin.org as it is focused on dev-related activities.  (full
disclosure: speaking at bitcoin2012.com)  The conference might or
might not be.  The conference does seem community focused, so I don't
object to it being on bitcoin.org...  But if consensus prefers
otherwise, that's OK too.

PS.  This seems like material for pull requests, which is preferred
over mailing list email + git push.  When working on the satoshi
client, we all ACK each other's pull req for anything beyond the
trivial.

-- 
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik@exmulti.com

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Luke-Jr]

On Monday, July 16, 2012 11:47:02 PM Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Vladimir does raise a fair point, though.  Hackathon seems appropriate
> for bitcoin.org as it is focused on dev-related activities.  (full
> disclosure: speaking at bitcoin2012.com)  The conference might or
> might not be.  The conference does seem community focused, so I don't
> object to it being on bitcoin.org...  But if consensus prefers
> otherwise, that's OK too.

IMO, bitcoin.org is more community-focussed anyway.
How often do devs use the site, compared to GitHub etc?

Someone else made a pullreq for Bitcoin Magazine; I suggest(ed) that
for-profit organizations should be asked to pitch in some way or another.
Who should organize that, I don't know. If Bitcoin Consultancy/Amir is behind 
the conference, I suggest their/his development contributions should be 
sufficient in that respect.

> PS.  This seems like material for pull requests, which is preferred
> over mailing list email + git push.  When working on the satoshi
> client, we all ACK each other's pull req for anything beyond the
> trivial.

I concur, this should be discussed in a pullreq.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Amir Taaki]

OK, pull request seems good.

FYI we lost money on last year's conference, and are hoping to break even this year. The only people to make profit will be nefario and anyone else we give a share in it (people who help realise it). Otherwise money made goes towards next year's conference and paying for things to make a better conference (like Gavin wanted to attend but couldn't afford a ticket). It is not a commercial event, and I've been pushing to keep the sponsorship and community parts highly separated. Like I really do not wish to sell a speaker slot, but if I have to (to pay the bills) then it will be obvious due to scheduling and disclaimers that speakers are sponsors.



----- Original Message -----
From: Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com>; Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

On Monday, July 16, 2012 11:47:02 PM Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Vladimir does raise a fair point, though.  Hackathon seems appropriate
> for bitcoin.org as it is focused on dev-related activities.  (full
> disclosure: speaking at bitcoin2012.com)  The conference might or
> might not be.  The conference does seem community focused, so I don't
> object to it being on bitcoin.org...  But if consensus prefers
> otherwise, that's OK too.

IMO, bitcoin.org is more community-focussed anyway.
How often do devs use the site, compared to GitHub etc?

Someone else made a pullreq for Bitcoin Magazine; I suggest(ed) that
for-profit organizations should be asked to pitch in some way or another.
Who should organize that, I don't know. If Bitcoin Consultancy/Amir is behind 
the conference, I suggest their/his development contributions should be 
sufficient in that respect.

> PS.  This seems like material for pull requests, which is preferred
> over mailing list email + git push.  When working on the satoshi
> client, we all ACK each other's pull req for anything beyond the
> trivial.

I concur, this should be discussed in a pullreq.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Andreas Petersson]

Am 17.07.2012 11:17, schrieb Amir Taaki:
> Like I really do not wish to sell a speaker slot, but if I have to (to pay the bills) then it will be obvious due to scheduling and disclaimers that speakers are sponsors.
>
>
Personally, i really don't mind sponsored speakers. If they have 
somewhat relevant topics they keep the event from becoming a "circlejerk".
for example i would really like to hear about payments innovation 
outside bitcoin.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

[Amir Taaki]

Yes, but then they should not be sponsors.

There's a very good reason why Wikipedia does not have advertisements. That is, the fear of advertisers influence on the neutral content. It is inevitably a corrupting influence. I want a good fun conference like the hackathon we just held.



----- Original Message -----
From: Andreas Petersson <andreas@petersson.at>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org - remove hackathon

Am 17.07.2012 11:17, schrieb Amir Taaki:
> Like I really do not wish to sell a speaker slot, but if I have to (to pay the bills) then it will be obvious due to scheduling and disclaimers that speakers are sponsors.
>
>
Personally, i really don't mind sponsored speakers. If they have 
somewhat relevant topics they keep the event from becoming a "circlejerk".
for example i would really like to hear about payments innovation 
outside bitcoin.

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