From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E226416 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:52:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from pmx.vmail.no (pmx.vmail.no [193.75.16.11]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6759E9 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmx.vmail.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with SMTP id E64DA4432B for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:52:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.bluecom.no (smtp.bluecom.no [193.75.75.28]) by pmx.vmail.no (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with ESMTP id 6AE3444312 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:52:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from coldstorage.localnet (unknown [81.191.185.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.bluecom.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56DD21F54F for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:52:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:52:24 +0200 Message-ID: <1536871.OeviznBiyx@coldstorage> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.1 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <201507172029.17056.luke@dashjr.org> References: <201507172029.17056.luke@dashjr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 102 - kick the can down the road to 2MB X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:52:28 -0000 On Friday 17. July 2015 20.29.16 Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev wrote: > We are unlikely to approach 1 MB of actual volume by November, so I would > prefer to see the activation date on this moved later - maybe November > 2016, if not 2017. It would also be an improvement to try to follow > reasonably- expected bandwidth increases, so 15% (1.15 MB) rather than > doubling. Doubling in only a few months seems to be far from a > "conservative" increase. The reference to bandwidth increases makes no sense, the bandwidth in most of the world is already far exceeding the 8Mb limit. Not everyone lives where you live :) In Germany you buy a 150Mbit connection for a flatrate and a cheap monthly rate, for instance. Not saying that Germany is where all the miners are, but since 150Mbit allows one to comfortably have 16 megabyte blocks, it is a good example of how far off Luke's calculations are from real-world. I don't belief your argument to push forward holds. -- Thomas Zander