From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C046098B for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 14:58:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mx-out01.mykolab.com (mx.kolabnow.com [95.128.36.1]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0632EA7 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 14:58:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kolabnow.com X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mx05.mykolab.com (mx05.mykolab.com [10.20.7.161]) by mx-out01.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4282F6161C; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:58:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Tom Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Pieter Wuille Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:58:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1782741.nelbyupFSb@strawberry> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:10:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 14:58:31 -0000 The fallow period sounds waaaay to short. I suggest 2 months at minimum since anyone that wants to be safe needs to upgrade. Also, please comment on why you won't use the much more safe and much smaller Flexible Transactions. On Sunday, 16 October 2016 16:31:55 CEST Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hello all, > > We're getting ready for Bitcoin Core's 0.13.1 release - the first one > to include segregated witness (BIP 141, 143, 144, 145) for Bitcoin > mainnet, after being extensively tested on testnet and in other > software. Following the BIP9 recommendation [1] to set the versionbits > start time a month in the future and discussion in the last IRC > meeting [2], I propose we set BIP 141's start time to November 15, > 2016, 0:00 UTC (unix time 1479168000). > > Note that this is just a lower bound on the time when the versionbits > signalling can begin. Activation on the network requires: > (1) This date to pass > (2) A full retarget window of 2016 blocks with 95% signalling the > version bit (bit 1 for BIP141) > (3) A fallow period consisting of another 2016 blocks. > > [1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0009.mediawiki > [2] > http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2016/bitcoin-core-dev. > 2016-10-13-19.04.log.html > > Cheers, -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel