[Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Luke-Jr]

Example patch: http://tinyurl.com/6679go5

Changes:
* Additions to your wallet always are category:"receive", no matter what kind
  of transaction
* Generated coins have an extra key, from:"generation"
* All transactions have a new key, status:
  * "orphan" -- Another block chain invalidated this transaction (only for
                generation?)
  * "validating" -- Default stage for transactions; 0-2 confirmations for
                    ordinary sends, and 0-100 for generated coins
  * "processing" -- 3-6 confirms for ordinary sends; 101-120 for generated
  * "confirmed" -- over 6/120 confirmations
  * "expired" -- for ordinary sends that have timed out without getting into a
                 block, or had its inputs otherwise respent

This change is proposed to fix webservices being ignorant of generated 
transactions by keeping a standard category/format for all similar types of 
entries.

Thoughts?

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Stéphane Gimenez]

Hi,

You may have a look at the following proposal. It associates
generations txouts with the appropriate addresses and accounts.
(See my previous mail)

https://github.com/sgimenez/bitcoin/commit/a8e6510042f2f7f951414c7da124668b30da4acd

> * Additions to your wallet always are category:"receive", no matter
>   what kind of transaction

Either this, or maybe webservices should be told to forget about
categories and to rely only on the sign of the amounts. Maybe a "type"
field with values "credit"/"debit" could help them? This way, more
categories could be added later (escrow transactions, or other scripts
that might be standardized).

An official API guide (not just a technical reference) would be very
valuable here.

Last, I agree that {list,get}receivedby* should include generated
amounts, because there is currently no way to do this for
generations. (This issue is not addressed by my patch yet)

Best,
Stéphane

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Luke-Jr]

On Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:59:07 PM Stéphane Gimenez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You may have a look at the following proposal. It associates
> generations txouts with the appropriate addresses and accounts.
> (See my previous mail)
> 
> https://github.com/sgimenez/bitcoin/commit/a8e6510042f2f7f951414c7da124668b
> 30da4acd

It is also very broken, which is why I took the time to come up with something 
workable when I needed it ;)

> > * Additions to your wallet always are category:"receive", no matter
> >   what kind of transaction
> 
> Either this, or maybe webservices should be told to forget about
> categories and to rely only on the sign of the amounts. Maybe a "type"
> field with values "credit"/"debit" could help them? This way, more
> categories could be added later (escrow transactions, or other scripts
> that might be standardized).

"move" is positive amount, but doesn't change the actual value in the wallet.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Gavin Andresen]

Fixing listtransactions (and listreceivedby/etc) so coin generation
transactions to particular addresses/accounts are credited to that
address/account is a good idea.

I don't think changing listtransactions output would be on the
priority list for any web services operators (in fact, I think most
would scream bloody murder if the output changed in a way that forced
them to change their code). The accounts-related things that I think
ARE on their high-priority list are:

1) Fixing getbalance and listtransactions performance problems when
you have hundreds of thousands of transactions and thousands of
accounts.

2) push-notification of coins received to accounts, so they don't have
to poll for changes.

-- 
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Gavin Andresen

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

[Amir Taaki]

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Oops, sorry Gavin. Meant to reply to the mailing list.

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People should not be using accounts for receiving funds on 
merchant sites. There are too many bugs associated with it, and it has 
innumerable problems. Like not being able to merge wallets or lack of 
find grained control when moving funds around.

https://gitorious.org/intersango/bitcoind/commit/50a6ab79ed8c5398648c52fbdc4be07f70dedadb

This is the recommended & most safest way to receive funds on a merchant site ATM.

listreceivedsince <timest> is called every so often by a cron job.
The output is parsed and placed into another table and then another job 
will go and create a deposit request from that table. The next call to listreceivedsince <timest> will call with the time of the last 
transaction, and doubles must be discarded using the txid.
Polling listtransactions is less convenient since you always repeat old 
transactions that you may not need, get generated transactions and have 
to pick a good number that goes back far enough, but not too far.


________________________________
From: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] listtransactions reformatting

Fixing listtransactions (and listreceivedby/etc) so coin generation
transactions to particular addresses/accounts are credited to that
address/account is a good idea.

I don't think changing listtransactions output would be on the
priority list for any web services operators (in fact, I think most
would scream bloody murder if the output changed in a way that forced
them to change their code). The accounts-related things that I think
ARE on their high-priority list are:

1) Fixing getbalance and listtransactions performance problems when
you have hundreds of thousands of transactions and thousands of
accounts.

2) push-notification of coins received to accounts, so they don't have
to poll for changes.

-- 
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Gavin Andresen

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