From: Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net,
Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:22:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112131622.08158.andyparkins@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1323791208.31194.YahooMailNeo@web121013.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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On 2011 December 13 Tuesday, Amir Taaki wrote:
> Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the document, but this is the intent with
> the HTTPS proposal.
I don't like the idea of a hard-coded mapping at all. We shouldn't be making
choices on behalf of server operators. It's up to them how they arrange their
domain names and paths.
I also agree that DNS is not the technology to use. DNS is a nightmare.
> genjix@foo.org
>
> Contacts https://foo.org/bitcoin-alias/?handle=genjix and the system
> responds with a bitcoin address. Whether the system gives you a new
> address from a pool of addresses, or contacts the merchant behind the
> scenes is implementation defined.
>
> I'll clarify it later. This is the relevant line:
>
> string strRequestUrl = strDomain + "/bitcoin-alias/?handle=" +
> pszEncodedNick;
>
> Between HTTPS service and server service, I lean slightly towards HTTPS
> (automatic encrypted connection, CAs + all benefits of DNS). But still
> interested in arguments in favour of a server service (daemon answering
> queries).
Why bother with an encoding scheme at all? If the address
genjix@foo.org
always maps to
https://foo.org/bitcoin-alias/?handle=genjix
Then forget the hardcoding of "https" the hardcoding of "bitcoin-alias" and
"?handle=" and the original email-looking "genjix@foo.org". Just use the URL.
Then the author of the service can use whatever they want.
"Can I pay you 10 BTC?"
"Sure, send it to 'https://bitcoinalias.foo.org/genjix/'"
While I might implement my alias server like this:
"Sure, send it to 'https://google.com/bitcoin/?andyparkins'"
"Sure, send it to 'https://parkins.co.uk/"
... or any other URL they want -- any of which suit might suit me and my
webserver better than whatever mapping would otherwise be hard-coded. The
world is already very familiar with URLs so this is no more scary than the
email address. What's more, the email address form looks _too much_ like an
email address, and will only lead to confusion ... "send it to genjix@foo.org"
"so I use outlook express for that, right?" "erm, no, you put it in your
bitcoin client".
The URL form could easily be made to detect a browser connecting rather than a
bitcoin client (and this is an area that would benefit from a standards
document -- define the headers and user agent triggers that an alias server
expects) and give them better instructions.
https can be specified as the default, so "https://" can be optional when
they're typing. If, in the future, bitcoin gets a distributed peer-to-peer
alias system, then a new URL type can be added easily "bcalias://andyparkins"
might automatically find my node in the network and query it for an address
(or whatever).
All of the above is exactly why OpenID chose to use URLs for ID.
Andy
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Dr Andy Parkins
andyparkins@gmail.com
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-12 23:16 [Bitcoin-development] [BIP 15] Aliases Zell Faze
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-12 23:41 ` Luke-Jr
[not found] ` <CAGQP0AGBKKEqhaJZj-Rw400AjrVHE9_EMve=RWdqoaOaDsTgtw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-13 0:00 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 0:42 ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13 2:32 ` Daniel F
2011-12-13 2:37 ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13 2:43 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-13 2:52 ` Daniel F
2011-12-13 10:55 ` Mike Hearn
2011-12-13 11:42 ` Christian Decker
2011-12-13 12:32 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 13:06 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-13 15:46 ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13 16:22 ` Andy Parkins [this message]
2011-12-14 19:22 ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:07 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-14 20:17 ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:21 ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2011-12-14 22:51 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-14 23:02 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-14 23:27 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-15 1:22 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15 3:57 ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15 4:56 ` Kyle Henderson
2011-12-15 6:04 ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15 6:41 ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-15 7:45 ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-15 7:52 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15 7:48 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15 8:26 ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-15 10:01 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-15 11:08 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15 11:22 ` Christian Decker
2011-12-16 5:42 ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-16 8:46 ` Pieter Wuille
2011-12-15 15:44 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15 15:42 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 0:07 ` slush
2011-12-16 15:52 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 16:36 ` slush
2011-12-16 17:10 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 17:41 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 18:29 ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-16 19:06 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-16 19:22 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 20:58 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 20:54 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 21:50 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-13 15:47 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-16 17:36 ` Khalahan
2011-12-16 17:48 ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-12-13 15:55 ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13 16:15 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 16:48 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-14 2:30 ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13 2:39 ` [Bitcoin-development] " Stefan Thomas
2011-12-12 23:52 ` Matt Corallo
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Will
[not found] <9109000381434268897@unknownmsgid>
2011-12-13 8:55 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Cameron Garnham
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