From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UJTAK-0007N8-Uf for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:27:40 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from zinan.dashjr.org ([173.242.112.54]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1UJTAJ-00067V-JH for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:27:40 +0000 Received: from ishibashi.localnet (unknown [173.170.142.26]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD68627A2966; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:27:31 +0000 (UTC) From: "Luke-Jr" To: Jeff Garzik Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:27:20 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.7.3-gentoo; KDE/4.9.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201303231751.48969.luke@dashjr.org> In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: E463 A93F 5F31 17EE DE6C 7316 BD02 9424 21F4 889F X-PGP-Key-ID: BD02942421F4889F X-PGP-Keyserver: hkp://pgp.mit.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201303231827.23273.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -2.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1UJTAJ-00067V-JH Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Upcoming network event: block v2 lock-in X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:27:41 -0000 On Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:21:32 PM Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Luke-Jr wrote: > > bitcoind is nowhere in the implementation of the miner end of BIP 34. > > Again, not strictly true. > > bitcoind's 'getblocktemplate' RPC call used by some supplies the block > version, selects transactions for the miner, and other tasks integral > to the implementation of the miner and BIP 34. Transaction selection and everything else bitcoind does, is irrelevant to BIP 34. It is incompatible with getblocktemplate for coinbase-creating software to produce v2 blocks without implementing BIP 34 themselves, even if the upstream GBT server specifies it.