From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Unfk0-0006ER-4c for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:57:20 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from zinan.dashjr.org ([173.242.112.54]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Unfjv-00063O-41 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:57:20 +0000 Received: from ishibashi.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74F7827A2966; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:57:09 +0000 (UTC) From: "Luke-Jr" To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:57:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.7.8-gentoo; KDE/4.10.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20130519132359.GA12366@netbook.cypherspace.org> <51BB8A58.7000308@petersson.at> <27BA300C-71B8-4AB1-9459-09975ABED8EB@dennisonbertram.com> In-Reply-To: <27BA300C-71B8-4AB1-9459-09975ABED8EB@dennisonbertram.com> X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: E463 A93F 5F31 17EE DE6C 7316 BD02 9424 21F4 889F X-PGP-Key-ID: BD02942421F4889F X-PGP-Keyserver: hkp://pgp.mit.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201306150157.07228.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1Unfjv-00063O-41 Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] is there a way to do bitcoin-staging? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:57:20 -0000 Timestamping ("proof of existence") doesn't need a coin at all. Just collect all the hashes you need timestamped into a PoE merkle tree and add that to the merged mining MT. It's pretty simple and straightforward, just needs someone to implement it. On Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:09:09 AM Dennison Bertram wrote: > Have your seen 'proof of existence'? It's basically a bitcoin notary > service that proves a document existed before it gets inserted into the > blockchain. While a good idea- you could argue that it's blockchain spam > as well- especially if one were to adapt it to high volumes in the future > for notarizing permanently things like tweets (for example) or combining > it with something like colored coins. These are great ideas, but maybe > better suited to a proto bitcoin without needing to fashion a brand new > coin.