From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UpapW-0000MT-7z for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:06:58 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from vps7135.xlshosting.net ([178.18.90.41]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1UpapU-0000LW-G1 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:06:58 +0000 Received: by vps7135.xlshosting.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 615F7BCD02; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:06:50 +0200 From: Pieter Wuille To: Mike Hearn Message-ID: <20130620090649.GA17765@vps7135.xlshosting.net> References: <4DE0E45E-BB48-4DFF-9C86-ACBE312B3049@bitsofproof.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://sipa.ulyssis.org/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (pieter.wuille[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -1.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.2 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list X-Headers-End: 1UpapU-0000LW-G1 Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Tamas Blummer Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Missing fRelayTxes in version X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:06:58 -0000 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:36:40AM +0200, Mike Hearn wrote: > Sure but why not do that when there's an actual new field to add? Does > anyone have a proposal for a feature that needs a new version field at the > moment? There's no point changing the protocol now unless there's actually > a new field to add. > > Anyway I still don't see why anyone cares about this issue. The Bitcoin > protocol does not and never has required that all messages have a fixed > number of fields per version. Any parser written on the assumption it did > was just buggy. Look at how tx messages are relayed for the most obvious > example of that pattern in action - it's actually the raw byte stream > that's stored and relayed to ensure that fields added in new versions > aren't dropped during round-tripping. Old versions are supposed to preserve > fields from the future. Actually, that is not the same issue. What is being argued for here is that the version in the version message itself should indicate which fields are present, so a parser doesn't need to look at the length of the message. That seems like a minor but very reasonable request to me, and it's trivial to do. That doesn't mean that you may receive versions higher than what you know of, and thus messages with fields you don't know about. That doesn't matter, you can just ignore them. I see no problem with raising the protocol version number to indicate "all fields up to fRelayTxes are required, if the announced nVersion is above N". In fact, I believe (though haven't checked) all previous additions to the version message were accompanied with a protocol version (then: client version) increase as well. -- Pieter