From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VBBwo-00021w-O2 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:59:46 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.148.99 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.148.99; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail148099.authsmtp.net; Received: from outmail148099.authsmtp.net ([62.13.148.99]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1VBBwl-0004dN-10 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:59:46 +0000 Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt12.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id r7IMxa7k069915; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:59:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r7IMxV7L051570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:59:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:59:30 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Mike Hearn Message-ID: <20130818225930.GA23974@savin> References: <20130818025932.GA372@savin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: d940c224-0859-11e3-b5c5-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdwoUGUATAgsB AmUbWVdeVVR7Wmc7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsqBmV8 TngZLhl3dgBBeDB2 ZEBqECRSWEQpd0R5 X05cEGQbZGY1a31N VRNdagNUcgZDfk5E bwQuUz1vNG8XDQg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBJSBS WgQAK04nCWAsMhML bTQlOhBnN2w9LwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1VBBwl-0004dN-10 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] NODE_BLOOM BIP X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:59:46 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:00:23AM +0200, Mike Hearn wrote: > The original Bloom filtering spec did not make this feature optional for > the same reason gzip isn't an optional part of the PNG specification. I s= ee > no reason to revisit that. It's definitely not the case that making every > possible feature optional is smart design, often it's the opposite. Bloom filtering isn't lossless so to speak. A better analogy would be making re-sharing an optinal part of the BitTorrent specification, and then expecting that the majority of users would never upload data to peers that needed it. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSEVHSAAoJECSBQD2l8JH7G/EH/3eWDSakw9TorHneQBxtWmtq 8JLIpLxfEHOeBTdHhVFd4Gz3+CTthe6ysFZMm38iE5StFrijPMWcKnu4lE4QJlTx lT6B32s4nEQOWg+YfraTLFnKbp7AZQgeKb8/NVUxLsAAaPeppjdFVyG/vTAClYL/ rSfcddzQMcrWEZslng0maOgzQMbTY+gimsvoiEDEz0Z+5lyPDyoLnZh25WRwDi8C wZPb1t3b0lSvnZ1ur1mo0nufDnOiXbq+OszlZmskiJCbZeX62K1scSqVmUjdgCO1 AzhbRdBjL85J++VWG0gE7EjomwE9bJiL+qduN7DQPs9lcfoihCsyYMqNO5jSeJc= =ZCOh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp--