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From: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Zeroconf-safe tx replacement (replace-for-fee)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:10:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131104111038.GA24552@netbook.cypherspace.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131104105243.GA28805@savin>

Might leak less wiggle room and be simpler/more robut to validate that
*everything* has to be the same except for the amount going to one (presumed
change) address.  A privacy leak I know, but dont do that - ie send enough
change the first time.  And network analysis has shown change addresses
arent adding hardly any privacy.

We need more robust privacy fixes independently.  I do not support damaging
the 0-conf feature, so I think this later approach is a better track for
revising fees.

Adam

On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 05:52:43AM -0500, Peter Todd wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 07:17:50AM +0000, John Dillon wrote:
>> This discussion seems to be a lot of hot air over a simple observation that
>> estimates are imperfect and always will be. I do not understand you vehement
>> opposition the notion that a backup is a good thing except in the context that
>> replacement to change fees is halfway to profit-seeking replacement by fee.
>>
>>
>> Peter Todd:
>>
>> You did a fair bit of leg work for replace-by-fee. Seems to me that
>> replace-for-fee will help prep infrastructure to eventual replace-by-fee usage,
>> while avoiding some of the politics around zero-conf transactions.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-04 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-24 14:30 [Bitcoin-development] Making fee estimation better Peter Todd
2013-10-24 14:38 ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-24 14:43   ` Peter Todd
2013-10-24 14:46     ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-24 14:54       ` Peter Todd
2013-10-24 20:39         ` Gavin Andresen
2013-10-25  7:07           ` Peter Todd
2013-10-25 12:02             ` Andreas Petersson
2013-10-25 13:29               ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-10-25 14:08                 ` Andreas Petersson
2013-10-25 16:13               ` Peter Todd
2013-10-25 19:35                 ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-10-25 22:13                   ` Peter Todd
2013-10-25  7:51           ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-10-25 22:49             ` Peter Todd
2013-10-26  0:25             ` Gavin Andresen
2013-10-26  7:28               ` Peter Todd
2013-10-28  7:17               ` John Dillon
2013-11-04 10:52                 ` [Bitcoin-development] Zeroconf-safe tx replacement (replace-for-fee) Peter Todd
2013-11-04 11:10                   ` Adam Back [this message]
2013-11-04 11:59                     ` Peter Todd

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