From: Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed.org>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for embedded consensus systems via double-spending/replace-by-fee
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:08:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140322150836.GG3180@nl.grid.coop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140322084702.GA13436@savin>
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:47:02AM -0400, Peter Todd wrote:
> There's been a lot of recent hoopla over proof-of-publication, with the
> OP_RETURN <data> length getting reduced to a rather useless 40 bytes at
> the last minute prior to the 0.9 release. Secondly I noticed a
> overlooked security flaw in that OP_CHECKMULTISIG sigops weren't taken
> into account, making it possible to broadcast unminable transactions and
> bloat mempools.(1) My suggestion was to just ditch bare OP_CHECKMULTISIG
> outputs given that the sigops limit and the way they use up a fixed 20
> sigops per op makes them hard to do fee calculations for. They also make
> it easy to bloat the UTXO set, potentially a bad thing. This would of
> course require things using them to change. Currently that's just
> Counterparty, so I gave them the heads up in my email.
I've spend some time looking at the Datacoin code, and I've come to the
conclusion the next copycatcoin I release will have an explicit 'data'
field with something like 169 bytes (a bakers dozen squared), which will
add 1 byte to each transaction if unused, and provide a small, but usable
data field for proof of publication. As a new coin, I can also do a
hardfork that increases the data size limit much easier if there is a
compelling reason to make it bigger.
I think this will prove to be a much more reliable infrastructure for
proof of publication than various hacks to overcome 40 byte limits with
Bitcoin.
I am disclosing this here so the bitcoin 1% has plenty of time to evaluate
the market risk they face from the 40 byte limit, and put some pressure to
implement some of the alternatives Todd proposes.
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Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hozer@hozed.org
7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.coop
Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,
nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-22 8:47 [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for embedded consensus systems via double-spending/replace-by-fee Peter Todd
2014-03-22 13:53 ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-22 19:34 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-22 20:12 ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-23 23:17 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-23 23:53 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-24 20:34 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-24 20:57 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-25 22:10 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-26 1:09 ` kjj
2014-03-22 15:08 ` Troy Benjegerdes [this message]
2014-03-22 17:04 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-22 19:08 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-23 22:37 ` Troy Benjegerdes
[not found] ` <532DE7E6.4050304@monetize.io>
2014-03-25 12:28 ` [Bitcoin-development] Tree-chains preliminary summary Peter Todd
2014-03-25 12:45 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-25 13:49 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-25 15:20 ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-25 16:47 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-25 17:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-03-25 18:02 ` Alan Reiner
2014-03-25 18:13 ` slush
2014-03-25 19:47 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-25 21:41 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-25 20:40 ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-03-25 22:00 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-03-26 10:58 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-25 12:50 ` Peter Todd
2014-03-25 21:03 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-03-25 22:34 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-03-27 16:14 ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-28 15:10 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-04-17 21:41 ` Tier Nolan
2014-03-26 10:48 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-03 17:23 ` Gregory Sanders
2014-03-24 21:17 ` [Bitcoin-development] Handling miner adoption gracefully for embedded consensus systems via double-spending/replace-by-fee Luke-Jr
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