From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YcE5B-0004Ys-Eo for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:20:57 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.148.154 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.148.154; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.148.154]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1YcE59-0005dl-SK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:20:57 +0000 Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt15.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t2TEKm7R021782; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:20:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck (216-15-126-84.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com [216.15.126.84]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t2TEKhP5041103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:20:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 07:20:43 -0700 From: Peter Todd To: Brian Deery Message-ID: <20150329142043.GA7204@muck> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Server-Quench: caa46290-d61e-11e4-9f74-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAsUFVQGAgsB AmMbWlFeUl17XWU7 aQtXcwRYfEtMWRti VFdMSlVNFUssA3h0 fUZ+Vxl2dgRGezB3 Y0dmECMKDUB8d099 XxpSFDgbZGY1bH0W BkdcagNUcgZDfk5E aVUrVz1vNG8XDQg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBJSBS WgQAK04nCWMaViI8 QA0NHSk0VUoDDzkz IlQ4K1cWHUIQLlR6 NlVpRVIVezEbARFZ GiMFHChaKl9p X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 216.15.126.84/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1YcE59-0005dl-SK Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] My thoughts on the viability of the Factom token X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:20:57 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:46:18AM -0500, Brian Deery wrote: > Greetings mailing list. >=20 > Not sure that this content is 100% appropriate here, but Peter Todd > invited me to post this for archival purposes. The original thread > has been removed from the search results, but is still up here: > http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z9k5p/factom_announces_launch_d= ate_for_software_token/ >=20 >=20 > I have added more thoughts too. Thanks. You know, looking though your writeup, I think we're talking past each other. I've found with a lot of other projects a good way to start is to explicitly list what you think Factom *prevents* from happening. It is after all security software - the most important thing it does is what it prevents the attacker from doing. Be specific - you really need to nail down exactly what kind of guarantees you're trying to get out of the Factom system. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 0000000000000000064a6b620c22d89697757f4d81c3b839e50b03e2d3f8e168 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJVGAo4XhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwNjRhNmI2MjBjMjJkODk2OTc3NTdmNGQ4MWMzYjgzOWU1 MGIwM2UyZDNmOGUxNjgvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udyP3gf/SJ48bAQxv08d6PHMVsoiwnLw v24svd8qMMilUV1mvhj6QNabVChC6nSQTIKr7T1/vQB5TdIp60E6TBmWD3/3beg5 7E7acD8+b/fD+BE76Btv2a/dltuDKO58btHm7PCPSjJ1Yul1B8mq7IGGMk4rI7/B 2P5OGVb83z7MOtY9HJ6FtBfwsq5GrUMXSvauHO16aVWO6KXdZAVsh9Otd3UbE5nO K8VzW8J5b/kJmjCvk9N6hm9ZMBlbLRCwC9la7COWveyAHkgYhmUyQ4hp1JzoXkkw bBo/0DHvCjUq11YZZQt5SwWyafBeK5ePbAgpK94AAnu0xuFEi/zuD/GjfPO3Cw== =DKOZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V--