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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@jtimon.cc>,
	"Pieter Wuille" <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Relative CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY (was CLTV proposal)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 15:35:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150427193526.GH5223@muck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABm2gDovFzpL_7KFqPXxhu4VohRfcE5S_PLAUgjgo_b84GaYeQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 02:20:04PM +0200, Jorge Timón wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon.cc> wrote:
> > And a new softfork rule could enforce that all new CTxIn set nHeight
> > to the correct height in which its corresponding prevout got into the
> > chain.
> > That would remove the need for the TxOutputGetter param in
> > bitcoinconsensus_verify_script, but unfortunately it is not reorg safe
> > (apart from other ugly implementation details).
> 
> Wait, wait, this can be made reorg-safe and more backards compatible.
> The new validation rule at the tx validation level (currently in
> main::CheckInputs()) would be

<snip>

So, seems to me that RCLTV opens up a whole rats nest of design
decisions and compromises that CLTV doesn't. Yet CLTV itself is a big
step forward, it's been implemented on Viacoin for the past few months
with no issues found, and has an extremely simple and easy to audit
implementation.

I think I'm going to argue we implement it as-is in a soft-fork. Pieter
Wuille's been working on a new way to handle soft-fork upgrades in the
block nVersion field, so this would be a good opportunity to add
something simple and well tested, and also make sure the new nVersion
soft-fork mechanism works. Equally, doing both at the same time ensures
we don't burn yet another version bit.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-27 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-01 13:08 [Bitcoin-development] [BIP draft] CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY - Prevent a txout from being spent until an expiration time Peter Todd
2014-10-01 15:01 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-10-02  1:06   ` Peter Todd
2014-10-01 15:29 ` Sergio Lerner
2014-10-01 17:06   ` Peter Todd
2014-10-01 18:23 ` Luke Dashjr
2014-10-01 20:58   ` Gavin Andresen
2014-10-01 21:04     ` Alan Reiner
2014-10-01 21:34       ` Gavin Andresen
2014-10-02  0:12         ` Peter Todd
2014-10-02  0:05   ` Peter Todd
2014-10-02  0:55     ` Luke Dashjr
2014-10-02  1:09       ` Peter Todd
2014-10-02 15:05         ` Flavien Charlon
2014-10-03 14:28           ` Matt Whitlock
2014-10-03 14:30             ` Matt Whitlock
2014-10-03 16:17             ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-03 17:50             ` Luke Dashjr
2014-10-03 20:58               ` Mike Hearn
2014-10-03 23:12                 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-10-04  0:38                   ` Peter Todd
2014-10-04 12:58                     ` Mike Hearn
2014-10-07 15:50                       ` Gavin Andresen
2014-10-07 16:08                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-10-08 10:26                           ` Wladimir
2014-10-09  3:13                             ` Alan Reiner
2014-10-09  6:14                               ` Adam Back
2014-10-09  6:28                                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-09  6:33                                   ` Peter Todd
2014-10-09  6:40                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-08  4:07                         ` Tom Harding
2014-10-08 10:15                           ` Mike Hearn
2015-03-16 22:22 ` [Bitcoin-development] Relative CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY (was CLTV proposal) Matt Corallo
2015-03-19 17:39   ` Zooko Wilcox-OHearn
2015-04-21  7:59   ` Peter Todd
2015-04-26 11:35     ` Jorge Timón
2015-04-26 12:20       ` Jorge Timón
2015-04-27 19:35         ` Peter Todd [this message]
2015-04-28  7:44           ` Jorge Timón
2015-05-04  2:15     ` Matt Corallo
2015-05-04 11:24       ` Jorge Timón
2015-05-05  0:41         ` Btc Drak
2015-05-05 19:19           ` Jorge Timón
2015-05-05 20:38         ` Tier Nolan
2015-05-06  7:37           ` Jorge Timón
2015-05-06 22:09             ` Tier Nolan

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