From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2mDt-0006LQ-Qr for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:03:41 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.78 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.78; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149078.authsmtp.net; Received: from outmail149078.authsmtp.net ([62.13.149.78]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Z2mDs-0004Mx-Oa for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:03:41 +0000 Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt17.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5AK3Xpt005675; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:03:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from savin.petertodd.org (75-119-251-161.dsl.teksavvy.com [75.119.251.161]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5AK3OCE051358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:03:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:03:23 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Nathan Wilcox Message-ID: <20150610200323.GA13724@savin.petertodd.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: c1d8bc27-0fab-11e5-9f74-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdwIUEkAaAgsB AmMbWVVeUF57W2Q7 bA9PbARUfEhLXhtr VklWR1pVCwQmRRlw fR1hIWxycgRFfXY+ ZEZmXngVD0UufRQu QElJFTtXN3phaTUa TUkOcAdJcANIexZF O1F8UScOLwdSbGoL NQ4vNDcwO3BTJTpY RgYVKF8UXXNDJiQ7 XxcZFDF9VXY9eW0d IhFuBl8HF0EPP18j eV4sUlIRNR4JD2UA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 75.119.251.161/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1Z2mDs-0004Mx-Oa Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: SPV Fee Discovery mechanism X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:03:41 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 02:00:27PM -0600, Nathan Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Aaron Voisine wrote: >=20 > > It could be done by agreeing on a data format and encoding it in an > > op_return output in the coinbase transaction. If it catches on it could > > later be enforced with a soft fork. > > > > > Sounds plausible, except SPV protocols would need to include this coinbase > txn if it's going to help SPV clients. (Until a softfork is activated, SPV > clients should not rely on this encoding, since until that time the resul= ts > can be fabricated by individual miners.) Fee stats can always be fabricated by individual miners because fees can be paid out-of-band. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000001245bd2f5c99379ee76836227ded9c08324894faabc0d27f --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJVeJgHXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAxMjQ1YmQyZjVjOTkzNzllZTc2ODM2MjI3ZGVkOWMwODMy NDg5NGZhYWJjMGQyN2YvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfsZ6Af+PN7fDxOf/WmqTN6hsxmf5xmu fl/HwTl6+GDWtERs91l+LhmSvFrYohNxSvGmgSJwxciYIDXlPQJwH6062ENhWLmh wc6weHPmp9q/ZaeFYvw6hzv1kXUfxQjOIjTJ0ZOMNAL+0+OvUakwl2sxeedDzq1N qfASPMFSw3lm2pVsUd+UQETEUMG3u4LQSA4gLKPwbyWKkvNUOBet1Fv5O7VEHpEW /gxejMuXxCSsP/2s8nGhqZJcf4J2SVdNpU1FYfLjbxNr6dnUJVqwtU3DVGUXIobR +iWb6vDKWGVKE+1U5ZRFSlNWCCwRc7o/kfH21D7/PwJMXxMgrhIFn10BABNKhw== =zd6Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu--