From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Proposed Compromise to the Block Size Limit
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:47:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150627184751.GA16460@muck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADL_X_ekJ_agt+94z-9_cQGdTOQym5t+6X+G4+AxvNBRpYBnTg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 02:02:05PM -0400, Jameson Lopp wrote:
> > For Bitcoin to have O(n) scaling you have to assume that the number of
> > validation nodes doesn't scale with the number of users, thus resulting
> > in a system where users trust others to do validation for them. That is
> > not a global consensus system; that's a trust-based system.
> >
> >
> Why does it matter what the "total work" of the network is? Anyone who is
> participating as a node on the network only cares about the resources
> required to run their own node, not the resources everyone else needs to
> run their nodes.
>
> Also, no assumption needed, it is quite clear that the number of nodes is
> not scaling along with the number of users. If anything it appears to be
> inversely proportional.
Which is a huge problem.
Concretely, what O(n^2) scaling means is that the more Bitcoin is
adopted, the harder it is to use in a decentralized way that doesn't
trust others; the blocksize limit puts a cap on how centralized Bitcoin
can get in a given technological landscape.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-27 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-27 14:39 [bitcoin-dev] A Proposed Compromise to the Block Size Limit Michael Naber
2015-06-27 15:21 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 15:29 ` Randi Joseph
2015-06-27 15:32 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 16:19 ` Michael Naber
2015-06-27 17:20 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 17:26 ` Benjamin
2015-06-27 17:37 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 17:46 ` Benjamin
2015-06-27 17:54 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 17:58 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-27 19:34 ` Benjamin
2015-06-27 15:33 ` Adam Back
2015-06-27 16:09 ` Michael Naber
2015-06-27 16:28 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-27 16:37 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 17:25 ` Michael Naber
2015-06-27 17:34 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 18:02 ` Jameson Lopp
2015-06-27 18:47 ` Peter Todd [this message]
2015-06-28 5:34 Raystonn
2015-06-28 10:07 ` Adam Back
2015-06-28 10:29 ` Benjamin
2015-06-28 12:37 ` Adam Back
2015-06-28 16:32 ` Raystonn .
2015-06-28 17:12 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-28 17:18 ` Benjamin
2015-06-28 17:29 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-28 17:45 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-28 17:51 ` Adam Back
2015-06-28 18:58 ` Adam Back
2015-06-28 21:05 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-28 21:23 ` Michael Naber
2015-06-28 22:07 ` Adam Back
2015-06-29 0:59 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-29 1:13 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-29 1:45 ` Andy Schroder
2015-06-30 0:42 ` Tom Harding
2015-07-10 2:55 ` Tom Harding
2015-06-28 17:53 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-28 19:22 ` Andrew Lapp
2015-06-28 19:40 ` Benjamin
2015-06-28 12:32 ` Milly Bitcoin
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