From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1F7D892 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:10:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:06:42 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from vfemail.net (ninezero.vfemail.net [96.30.253.190]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D91989 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13204 invoked by uid 89); 21 Aug 2015 18:03:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 21 Aug 2015 18:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 13132 invoked by uid 89); 21 Aug 2015 18:03:33 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 13130, pid: 13131, t: 0.0022s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO smtp102-2.vfemail.net) (172.16.100.62) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 21 Aug 2015 18:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 21134 invoked by uid 89); 21 Aug 2015 18:03:33 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21127, pid: 21130, t: 0.0796s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO www111) (c2lzYWRtMTAxQGNsb3Zlcm1haWwubmV0@172.16.100.93) by 172.16.100.62 with ESMTPA; 21 Aug 2015 18:03:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:03:33 -0500 Message-ID: <20150821130333.Horde.9zPFmy3VMqAO5FGReDHaRg1@www.vfemail.net> From: sisadm101@clovermail.net To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.2) X-VFEmail-Originating-IP: 46.165.223.217 X-VFEmail-AntiSpam: Notify admin@vfemail.net of any spam, and include VFEmail headers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_3_FaM9JC5tgU6sPP7_oo7g1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,LOTS_OF_MONEY, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Censorship X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:10:34 -0000 This message is in MIME format. --=_3_FaM9JC5tgU6sPP7_oo7g1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Description: Plaintext Message Content-Disposition: inline People are wondering why there is such a division in the bitcoin community at this time. Bitcoin as a whole is only so big. The bitcoin discussion communities are spread out, but there are only a few popular ones. BitcoinTalk and Reddit seem to be the largest, most popular where bitcoin discussion happens consistently and from almost everyone in the community (devs, users, btc companies, merchants, and so on). I think we all know where this is going. If not, here you go. BitcoinTalk and Reddit are managed by a single person: Theymos. It's become quite clear over the past several days/weeks, that Theymos is highly censoring bitcoin discussion, mainly on Reddit, but also BitcoinTalk. If this single person is able to censor content, and hush the debate, he (and whatever his agenda is), wins. How can we as a community discuss these proposed changes, if the discussion is from a one sided point of view? There doesn't seem to be a solution at this time, but I find it dissapointing that many (in this very email list) aren't discussing this important part of the issue. Maybe it's becuase Theymos is anti-bigger blocks, which seems to coincide with the Blockstream point of view, which many of the core devs belong to. ------------------------------------------------- ONLY AT VFEmail! - Use our Metadata Mitigator to keep your email out of the NSA's hands! $24.95 ONETIME Lifetime accounts with Privacy Features! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! Commercial and Bulk Mail Options! --=_3_FaM9JC5tgU6sPP7_oo7g1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Description: HTML Message Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

People are wondering why there is such a division in the bitcoin communi= ty at this time. Bitcoin as a whole is only so big. The bitcoin discussion = communities are spread out, but there are only a few popular ones. BitcoinT= alk and Reddit seem to be the largest, most popular where bitcoin discussio= n happens consistently and from almost everyone in the community (devs, use= rs, btc companies, merchants, and so on). I think we all know where this is= going. If not, here you go. BitcoinTalk and Reddit are managed by a single= person: Theymos. It's become quite clear over the past several days/weeks,= that Theymos is highly censoring bitcoin discussion, mainly on Reddit, but= also BitcoinTalk. If this single person is able to censor content, and hus= h the debate, he (and whatever his agenda is), wins. How can we as a commun= ity discuss these proposed changes, if the discussion is from a one sided p= oint of view? There doesn't seem to be a solution at this time, but I find = it dissapointing that many (in this very email list) aren't discussing this= important part of the issue. Maybe it's becuase Theymos is anti-bigger blo= cks, which seems to coincide with the Blockstream point of view, which many= of the core devs belong to.


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