From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9050C14DC for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2.hushmail.com [65.39.178.134]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BC27F5 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF53EA0296 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=hush.com; h=date:to:subject:from; s=hush; bh=Ti7hkMu49p08JwGkodkNfNRwTLmt3Pa/vq1qIBPtNs4=; b=a+mE6ejNEuL/4TlYzYaRgmAfx1nYLQ2mjy/ZygQGSMzb8br6IKdsVji0kXmBz9z1Ls5O3KTr9TMKEf0VTrY9BQ/+goBjaUOcPTSZKFwJNEdvZwPEirrEmuayiPhrqWXNmPhhYSW2WSbg4RJKQDM9ZYXD/ODVFlVy7Fty7ImsPQb4uGR10RciHF2ibnQ67ha/lM8mfV048uRnX60MDTZ/Sft6mzsn897cYgNujJ9Rpd8ysdunPJbd4m5cZTlaOYQER7RP6b38SKtGwUtFCCG9o+oJxngWxcz7G7QOsD4A7ji2v83gXzSYxTSzHtQzNFgsN7i+I77iIyLZEip5orxLGg== Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w7.hushmail.com [65.39.178.32]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 820CC404B9; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:58 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:57:58 +0300 To: "Eric Voskuil" , "Peter Todd" , "Matt Corallo" From: "NxtChg" In-Reply-To: <55FD1122.5030107@voskuil.org> References: <55F9E47D.50507@mattcorallo.com> <55FC6EBF.9090504@mattcorallo.com> <20150919014710.GD22598@muck> <20150919060639.A775A404B9@smtp.hushmail.com> <55FD0737.1080008@voskuil.org> <20150919072714.D3349404B9@smtp.hushmail.com> <55FD1122.5030107@voskuil.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150919075758.820CC404B9@smtp.hushmail.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin development mailing list , Libbitcoin Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Bitcoin conference micro-report X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:57:59 -0000 >Your vision of censorship resistance is to become such a strong >central authority that you can resist it in direct physical confrontation. >If you succeed at this, you are the threat. My vision is a strong _decentralized_ system, which is: a) too important to close, b) able to provide adequate response to governments, like EFF or Google do. Having a substantial attack surface and, at the same time, not having significant power is the worst fighting strategy. It's the "Peter Todd vs 10 cops" scenario. >The inability to see another option is the inability to understand what Satoshi created. So your closing remark is basically, "you're too stupid to understand"? I'll take it.