From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 468E3105C for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:31:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148108.authsmtp.net (outmail148108.authsmtp.net [62.13.148.108]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F0513E for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt21.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id tBUEVpjL079024; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:31:51 GMT Received: from muck ([24.114.27.145]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id tBUEVfNd006091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:31:47 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 06:31:37 -0800 From: Peter Todd To: Jonathan Toomim , bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Message-ID: <20151230143137.GB19507@muck> References: <6fc10e581a81abb76be5cd49275ebf48@openmailbox.org> <8E12B367-1A55-435F-9244-101C09094BDA@toom.im> <20151230141955.GA15588@muck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WYTEVAkct0FjGQmd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151230141955.GA15588@muck> X-Server-Quench: 0fac1008-af02-11e5-bcde-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdQIUHFAXAgsB AmMbWlBeU1x7XWo7 aQ5PbARZfEhJQQRu VVdMSlVNFUssc3l0 YEhgBhlycQVPeTB1 Z0RiEHANDRd7dUZ1 Xx8CFW8bZGY1bX1N AxQNagNUcQZLeRkW O1F2XD1vNG8XDSg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBHWx8 REkMKEoWTEMGGCI1 WxEFG30oEwUvZh1q d0ZuI0VUFQ4KNUsu P1w7WhRw X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 24.114.27.145/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] An implementation of BIP102 as a softfork. X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:31:54 -0000 --WYTEVAkct0FjGQmd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 06:19:55AM -0800, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 05:29:05AM -0800, Jonathan Toomim via bitcoin-dev= wrote: > > As a first impression, I think this proposal is intellectually interest= ing, but crufty and hackish and should never actually be deployed. Writing = code for Bitcoin in a future in which we have deployed a few generalized so= ftforks this way sounds terrifying. >=20 > >=20 > > It might be possible to make that a bit simpler with recursion, or by d= oing subsequent generalized softforks in a way that doesn't have multi-leve= ls-deep block-within-a-block-within-a-block stuff. Still: ugh. >=20 > Your fear is misplaced: it's trivial to avoid recursion with a bit of > planning. >=20 > For instance, if Bitcoin was redesigned to incorporate the forced fork Actually, a better name is probably "forced soft-fork", making this clear we're using the soft-fork mechanism to force everyone to upgrade. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000000831fc2554d9370aeba2701fff09980123d24a615eee7416 --WYTEVAkct0FjGQmd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJWg+rEXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwODMxZmMyNTU0ZDkzNzBhZWJhMjcwMWZmZjA5OTgwMTIz ZDI0YTYxNWVlZTc0MTYvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udx5Ugf+K7noFpsOMFvKT7Prfr8bMpdw aaI8bItwYAT9G2Pgc/8aZo+xrnJ7hJUuVNWgqvqoYJl3XS572z8v9EIHkQPcwSvT BBIyo7N6WjgUkNZjS9j10RSK9Nvk0ts343NLMV2xwAS+VXOoHDygbVivvGfkDkNo IJC35yueLC3CZXEl0rfNxTqZlgvmGcY/EedWUfpL2S1xcncFGyTN0XYV53WEwnMw v8+TIoUdQ5TcNCsgS5xV+BPKX0SQdpRzXPd8COi/WlLk4W2rZbuK4zYx4KIbG8TG YO4pnOB5aJJstSYEvQ/UPmx/7eSslI9O7fhAyBC5Adb21C2646ECiIIdclA4OQ== =MoHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WYTEVAkct0FjGQmd--