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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org>
To: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Process: Status, comments, and copyright licenses
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:08:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201602021908.20547.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T2X+2Vnwd3RJJvRpNKbO2S1kY8JS2YqHEKUmAhYSNpkBg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, February 02, 2016 3:58:21 PM Gavin Andresen wrote:
> I don't like the definition of "consensus".  I think the definition
> described gives too much centralized control to whoever controls the
> mailing list and the wiki.

How can I improve this? Inevitably, every medium of communications will be 
controlled by someone (even if unmoderated, it becomes effectively controlled 
by trolls who spam it with garbage).

I think it's important to note that this is also only for updating the status 
of BIPs, and is not in any way relevant to such proposals *actually* being 
accepted. So if the BIP process were to breakdown on this or any other point, 
it isn't somehow controlling the actual reality. To explicitly clarify this 
point, I have added to the end of the section:
    "These criteria are considered objective ways to observe the de facto
     adoption of the BIP, and are not to be used as reasons to oppose or
     reject a BIP. Should a BIP become actually and unambiguously adopted
     despite not meeting the criteria outlined here, it should still be
     updated to Final status."
Does that help?

Thanks,

Luke


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-01 22:53 [bitcoin-dev] BIP Process: Status, comments, and copyright licenses Luke Dashjr
2016-02-02  5:50 ` Dave Scotese
2016-02-02  7:54   ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-02 16:00     ` Dave Scotese
2016-02-02 15:58 ` Gavin Andresen
2016-02-02 17:38   ` Jorge Timón
2016-02-02 19:41     ` Luke Dashjr
     [not found]       ` <CAGLBAhdFo2pXcDfvPCTpm7ufQuG8z4mHsdoidGkhB3q5SWLj=A@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-03  0:03         ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-03  0:59           ` Jorge Timón
2016-02-02 19:08   ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2016-03-10  0:37   ` Mustafa Al-Bassam
2016-02-04  4:15 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-04 17:45   ` Ryan Grant
2016-02-04 21:17     ` Luke Dashjr
2016-02-05  0:09       ` Ryan Grant
2016-02-02  6:35 Ryan Grant

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