From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CA7F10ED for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:12:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail149113.authsmtp.com (outmail149113.authsmtp.com [62.13.149.113]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9986E112 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt21.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u12JCDh1098868; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:12:13 GMT Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u12JCB4G096827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:12:12 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CAEC440117; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 19:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:12:09 -0500 From: Peter Todd To: Toby Padilla Message-ID: <20160202191209.GA6880@muck> References: <201601260323.14993.luke@dashjr.org> <56A79C86.1030902@gmail.com> <20160202170356.GC18604@muck> <20160202173849.GA5096@muck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Server-Quench: dd4b0e9c-c9e0-11e5-bcde-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdgAUHlAWAgsB AmAbWl1eUV97WGE7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcUQRqe29z AmkeWx96dQIIeX53 Y0EsCiRfDkQvfBVg EUcBFXAHZDJldTJM BBVFdwNVdQJNeEwU a1l3GhFYa3VsNCMk FAgyOXU9MCtqYBd/ YzlFAUgbT1o+Vhc4 QxcdVSciB0pNWSw3 MhFuDWYrJmstD38U eVonEWoRIhofDBE8 V3lXBzNeLF4FLwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Draft] Allow zero value OP_RETURN in Payment Protocol X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 19:12:16 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 09:41:35AM -0800, Toby Padilla wrote: > Then the moderation is being unevenly applied. Luke commented against my > BIP multiple times right after it was published but it took hours for my > responses to go through and I had to track people down on IRC to ask about > it: >=20 > http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-January/threa= d.html Keep in mind that actual human beings need to hit the approve button on your posts; quite likely Luke happened to respond when those humans were available, and you didn't. I personally had to do the exact same thing the other day with one of my posts. Moderation is an unfortunate thing to need, but this list is read by literally hundreds of busy people, many of whome have had to unsubscribe at various points in the past due to a lack of moderation. I wish we had a better solution, but that's what we have. We're also not along in using fairly agressive moderation, for example the cryptography@metzdowd.com mailing list where Bitcoin was originally announced uses manual approval moderation on all messages as well; there's also an unmoderated offshoot of it, cryptography@randombit.net (and feel free to start an unmoderated version of bitcoin-dev!) --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 000000000000000008320874843f282f554aa2436290642fcfa81e5a01d78698 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJWsP+EXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwODMyMDg3NDg0M2YyODJmNTU0YWEyNDM2MjkwNjQyZmNm YTgxZTVhMDFkNzg2OTgvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udwpCQf+MaUVeFOotOyOvY2S6kOcqC5D 6d9A+6AeBW9CyBEHUH41kjm5j+w6a82+k/7F/Tq67b2SgFaCRrJQ+ZqpwIJ/qj8V lUHz6ognqjgeXW3h5PrEONTU1CPTxMFJ8UYtEgNV9HQfs2FfqDMUQXG1n9PgJXtA l5UyTNeXtcrhuXV/VrQO4WTniUCEe/PQzc75qjabq0PhulcLLa4WLlmC6EHQZMMK WIQXa8gY8TAO1I4khgYhFjLXbfuxG18YECIyrY54qwGBQDErjg/AeFd+nn6bjk/I L5Q+tsMvtdfR7oVACe7/nBwPcyWZkIUKoKMQE3WmS6VPqz/e/sorIuS0AQ3IGA== =xbAY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR--