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From: Henning Kopp <henning.kopp@uni-ulm.de>
To: Alice Wonder <alice@librelamp.com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] consensus rule change for TX fee safety
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 16:04:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303150418.GA2341@banane.informatik.uni-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D835D3.9070902@librelamp.com>

Hi,
I think there is no need to do a hardfork for this. Rather it should
be implemented as a safety-mechanism in the client. Perhaps a warning
can pop up, if one of your conditions A) or B) is met.

All the best
Henning Kopp


On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 05:02:11AM -0800, Alice Wonder via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> I think the next hard fork should require a safety rule for TX fees.
> 
> https://blockchain.info/tx/6fe69404e6c12b25b60fcd56cc6dc9fb169b24608943def6dbe1eb0a9388ed08
> 
> 15 BTC TX fee for < 7 BTC of outputs.
> 
> Probably either a typo or client bug.
> 
> My guess is the user was using a client that does not adjust TX fee, and
> needed to manually set it in order to get the TX in the block sooner, and
> meant 15 mBTC or something.
> 
> I suggest that either :
> 
> A) TX fee may not be larger than sum of outputs
> B) TX fee per byte may not be larger than 4X largest fee per byte in
> previous block
> 
> Either of those would have prevented this TX from going into a block.
> 
> Many people I know are scared of bitcoin, that they will make a TX and make
> a mistake they can't undo.
> 
> Adding protections may help give confidence and there is precedence to doing
> things to prevent typo blunders - a public address has a four byte checksum
> to reduce the odds of a typo.
> 
> This kind of mistake is rare, so a fix could be included in the coming HF
> for the possible July 2017 block increase.
> 
> Thank you for your time.
> 
> Alice Wonder
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-03 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 13:02 [bitcoin-dev] consensus rule change for TX fee safety Alice Wonder
2016-03-03 15:04 ` Henning Kopp [this message]
2016-03-03 15:28   ` Peter Todd
2016-03-03 15:55     ` Marco Falke
2016-03-03 15:36   ` Jorge Timón
2016-03-03 16:38     ` Dave Scotese
2016-03-03 15:29 ` Jonas Schnelli

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