From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEB4687A for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:13:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail149084.authsmtp.net (outmail149084.authsmtp.net [62.13.149.84]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C8A13A for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt22.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u5LMDpCO003781; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:13:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u5LMDnMv060033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:13:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D5C24010B; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B86BD20217; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:13:47 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Erik Aronesty , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20160621221347.GC10196@fedora-21-dvm> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Server-Quench: 6ea96b99-37fd-11e6-bcde-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAMUEkAaAgsB AmAbWVdeUV57XGM7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcUQAUfGhf e1geVBlydAYIfXZ4 YQhkCyFSWhZzfFt+ RRgACGwHMGF9OjNL BV1YdwJRcQRMLU5E Y1gxNiYHcQ5VPz4z GA41ejw8IwAXBTpY REkIKkgfCV4RGSY7 XB0OVR8OJQUIVzk+ KQcnLVgHVFoWem8T CRN5AQ1AWwA8 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Even more proposed BIP extensions to BIP 0070 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:13:53 -0000 --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 05:33:32PM +0000, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev wro= te: > BIP 0070 has been a a moderate success, however, IMO: >=20 > - protocol buffers are inappropriate since ease of use and extensibility = is > desired over the minor gains of efficiency in this protocol. Not too late > to support JSON messages as the standard going forward >=20 > - problematic reliance on merchant-supplied https (X509) as the sole form > of mechant identification. alternate schemes (dnssec/netki), pgp and > possibly keybase seem like good ideas. personally, i like keybase, since > there is no reliance on the existing domain-name system (you can sell with > a github id, for example) >=20 > - missing an optional client supplied identification Note that "client supplied identification" is being pushed for AML/KYC compliance, e.g. Netki's AML/KYC compliance product: http://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-identity-company-netki-launch-ssl-certif= icate-blockchain/ This is an extremely undesirable feature to be baking into standards given = it's negative impact on fungibility and privacy; we should not be adopting stand= ards with AML/KYC support, for much the same reasons that the W3C should not be standardizing DRM. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXabwYAAoJEGOZARBE6K+yxk4H/ij5A+OCAOHga1YCDUZqi5mX MNIF/n9TKmAMMOUaBwdRwX8UBiZndnVWSdzfTYmUCgCzGbCTRtO9LQbKsR5tEOqN rDvg/Q+FfTZbcedHBsnTsE2IzDCov3wjsxqoSwdsW9GJT4EE1um2CwysA189V40o 2jYmXw0c1VOvgfFfj/b3XbQGl4eEx3zaCRTQNbT5hihynH6tiAGuPYXs4EJeQokQ hYjZ0cFZZioT+ecQtiGTPWZLanfYreTAEUmFvpdPEbKZW9Q7Eo3VGzbE8rzMGHCE JhtcHpUKgXCZxwPczEluI6gMv6br+bfJ9q4eeb8fjU6vSHOqJHTrw+ATxH1ulLw= =booV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5--