From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6FE5955 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:02:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148093.authsmtp.net (outmail148093.authsmtp.net [62.13.148.93]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDE715D for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt20.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u5LN2cAF008866; Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:02:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id u5LN2Ys5060528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:02:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 417AB4010C; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A083020217; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:02:33 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: James MacWhyte Message-ID: <20160621230233.GA10705@fedora-21-dvm> References: <20160621221347.GC10196@fedora-21-dvm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Server-Quench: 3e729854-3804-11e6-bcde-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdAAUEkAaAgsB AmAbW1ReUF97WmU7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcUQAUfx5o RRseVBl3dQ0IcHZ4 ZghhC3dZVUx/cVt+ Sk5QCGwHMGF9OjNL BV1YdwJRcQRMLU5E Y1gxNiYHcQ5VPz4z GA41ejw8IwAXBTpY REkIKkgfCV4RGSY7 XB0OVR8OJQUIVzk+ KQcnLVgHVFoWem8T CRN5AQ1AWwA8 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Even more proposed BIP extensions to BIP 0070 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:02:40 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:50:36PM +0000, James MacWhyte wrote: > > Note that "client supplied identification" is being pushed for AML/KYC > > compliance, e.g. Netki's AML/KYC compliance product: > > > > > > http://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-identity-company-netki-launch-ssl-ce= rtificate-blockchain/ > > > > This is an extremely undesirable feature to be baking into standards gi= ven > > it's > > negative impact on fungibility and privacy; we should not be adopting > > standards > > with AML/KYC support, for much the same reasons that the W3C should not= be > > standardizing DRM. > > > > > KYC isn't the only use case. There are other situations in which you would > want to confirm who is sending you money. Making it *required* would of > course be a horrible idea, but allowing people to identify themselves, in > many cases with an online-only identity that isn't tied to their real wor= ld > identity, will be very useful to newly-developing use cases. It's easy to confirm who is sending you money: give out different addresses= to different people, and keep those addresses private. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXaceGAAoJEGOZARBE6K+yRgMH/RdK7sIx1D1nndOglebTeFmq RqeX8OEcvE8hDGsaJQ6P0L+t3uptvU8Oc4y1XKKiyqHf3OOXJonxy2bqXoTUA2gR jt1HX8ls/dk1pW1DRWpw0qwBqFrUsSvcyxutKCUEseoAeQsjgWvgvc4q8d9hNqxj vxe0xojpCdMKkUSL3+VlsJS8xYJcdfEauUqZbkufvnetDf+onBdzaGB6WI6940hL RB6VRom+Xf+Uee3turgWVCFnxEZrg9s6/rKvchdvyTS0XgEGQOUsK5bJb/vuja6t h496ZOT6nUTV2nTE+5iiqVTScfbev657CzMlSojWe9qsVlPgVwmi6UKYgStNTAQ= =90bJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--