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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Even more proposed BIP extensions to BIP 0070
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:10:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623121000.GA20073@fedora-21-dvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBiqh80Q4Dfm0y6aEX+gHrcHZMq3tckejx8KDCPb-ikkOg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 02:01:10PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 01:30:45PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:
> > For the record, I think the idea of the bips repo being a pure publication
> > platform isn't a good one and doesn't match reality; like it or not by
> > accepting bips we're putting a stamp of some kind of approval on them.
> 
> We? I don't feel like I have any authority to say what goes into that
> repository, and neither do you. We just give technical opinion on
> proposals. The fact that it's under the bitcoin organization on github
> is a historical artifact.

That's simply not how the rest of the community perceives bips, and until we
move them elsewhere that's not going to change.

No matter how much we scream that we don't have authority, the fact of the
matter is the bips are located under the github.com/bitcoin namespace, and we
do have editorial control over them.

> > I have zero issues with us exercising editorial control over what's in the bips
> > repo; us doing so doesn't in any way prevent other's from publishing elsewhere.
> 
> Editorial control is inevitable to some extent, but I think that's
> more a matter of process than of opinion. Things like "Was there
> community discussion?", "Is it relevant?", "Is there a reference
> implementation?". I don't think that you objecting for moral reasons
> to an otherwise technically sound idea is a reason for removal of a
> BIP. You are of course free to propose alternatives, or recommend
> against its usage.

Right, so you accept that we'll exert some degree of editorial control; the
question now is what editorial policies should we exert?

My argument is that rejecting BIP75 is something we should do on
ethical/strategic grounds. You may disagree with that, but please don't troll
and call that "advocating censorship"

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-23 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-20 17:33 [bitcoin-dev] Even more proposed BIP extensions to BIP 0070 Erik Aronesty
2016-06-21  9:43 ` Andreas Schildbach
2016-06-21 17:09   ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-21 19:50   ` Andy Schroder
2016-06-21 20:44 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-06-21 21:42   ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-22  0:36     ` Luke Dashjr
2016-06-21 22:10   ` Peter Todd
2016-06-21 22:19   ` Peter Todd
2016-06-21 20:56 ` James MacWhyte
2016-06-21 21:17   ` Matt David
2016-06-21 22:13 ` Peter Todd
2016-06-21 22:50   ` James MacWhyte
2016-06-21 23:02     ` Peter Todd
2016-06-22  0:14   ` Justin Newton
2016-06-23 10:56     ` Peter Todd
2016-06-23 11:30       ` Pieter Wuille
2016-06-23 11:39         ` Peter Todd
2016-06-23 12:01           ` Pieter Wuille
2016-06-23 12:10             ` Peter Todd [this message]
2016-06-23 12:16               ` Pieter Wuille
2016-06-23 12:43                 ` Peter Todd
2016-06-23 13:03       ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-23 16:58       ` Aaron Voisine
2016-06-23 20:46       ` s7r
2016-06-23 21:07         ` Justin Newton
2016-06-23 21:31           ` Police Terror
2016-06-23 22:44             ` Justin Newton
2016-06-24  2:26               ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-24  5:27                 ` James MacWhyte
2016-06-22  7:57 ` Thomas Voegtlin
2016-06-22 14:25   ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-22 15:12     ` Andy Schroder
2016-06-22 15:30       ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-22 16:20         ` Andy Schroder
2016-06-22 17:07           ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-22 20:11             ` James MacWhyte
2016-06-22 20:37               ` Erik Aronesty
2016-06-23 11:50     ` Andreas Schildbach

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