From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3237E990 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:47:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from dosf1.alfie.wtf (dosf1.alfie.wtf [104.236.177.69]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCB6209 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dosf1.alfie.wtf (Postfix, from userid 0) id 87D40615A3; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:47:34 +0000 From: Alfie John To: Erik Aronesty , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20160630144734.GR13338@dosf1.alfie.wtf> References: <87h9cecad5.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <1E86A00F-0609-4DBC-9543-94AE04CC13C9@voskuil.org> <577234A4.3030808@jonasschnelli.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 151 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:47:35 -0000 On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 09:36:57AM -0400, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Encrypting links in a network without identity doesn't really seem to help > enough for the costs to be justified. Passive is still better than none. > I would like to see a PGP-like "web of trust" proposal for both the > security of the bitcoin network itself /and/ (eventually) of things like > transmission of bitcoin addresses. There already exists an unutilised WoT of "good" actors within the network - miners via the coinbase transaction. Bootstrapping their own "trusted" pool of IP addresses would be possible via the 100 bytes coinbase script. > *Then* you can slap an encryption layer on top of it. Once you have > identity & P2P verified pub keys for nodes, encryption becomes easy. A miner's WoT will give you this. Alfie -- Alfie John https://www.alfie.wtf