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From: Christian Decker <decker.christian@gmail.com>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Three hardfork-related BIPs
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:28:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170127212810.GA5856@nex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB3F3DviHkQo9ndYphOgUvgSum9TTzX=AA_Acdf-9sZJ7TuHuQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 03:47:20PM -0500, Greg Sanders via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Note that the 4MB number comes from a single network metric.
> 
> Quotes directly from the paper in question:
> http://fc16.ifca.ai/bitcoin/papers/CDE+16.pdf
> 
> >Our results hinge on the key metric of effective throughput in the overlay
> network, which we define here as which blocks propagate within an average
> block interval period the percentage of nodes to.
> ...
> >Note that as we consider only a subset of possible metrics (due to
> difficulty in accurately measuring others), our results on
> reparametrization may be viewed as upper bounds: additional metrics could
> reveal even stricter limits.
> 
> It says nothing about any mining centralization pressure, DoS attacks, etc.
> A single metric among many we have to contend with.
>

As one of the authors of that paper and the source of the measurement
data I'd also like to point out that the 4MB number is indeed intended
as an optimistic upper bound on todays network capacity.

More importantly it's not a black and white situation, where there is
a magic number beyond which Bad Things (TM) happen, it's a spectrum on
which we can see a few threshold beyond which we _know_ Bad Things
definitely happen. Miner centralization pressure is felt earlier.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-27 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-27  1:06 [bitcoin-dev] Three hardfork-related BIPs Luke Dashjr
     [not found] ` <CAAy62_L-mLhokVy4_WeLBVnxM0Y76dtFBaaDrRvQozxw=J1Ctw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAAy62_+1OjF3V5g4wpOyW0KtNGodddJu_cxOfG-f+8LB7D=rPA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-01-27  3:04     ` Andrew Johnson
2017-01-27  4:14       ` Luke Dashjr
     [not found]         ` <CAAy62_LHtrx7k73kznMpPvheA--0T9YiHkjHArf2KK0Qt+ViUg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-01-27  6:13           ` Andrew Johnson
     [not found]             ` <CAMZUoKnxqxvPQehdWo1ZaHB-1-od4cHvJRDTmF5x7ty1CdLbUQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAMZUoK=eb3jgA7Rwt38tvZt0tYk7gRVPc_2=HUWg1L_vaD93uw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-01-27 20:34                 ` Russell O'Connor
2017-01-27 20:47                   ` Greg Sanders
2017-01-27 21:28                     ` Christian Decker [this message]
2017-01-27 23:53                       ` Andrew Johnson
2017-01-28  4:03                         ` Luke Dashjr
2017-01-28 10:36                           ` Natanael
2017-01-28 18:29                             ` Peter Todd
2017-01-29 19:15                               ` Tom Harding
2017-01-29 19:37                                 ` Eric Voskuil
2017-02-11 15:26                                   ` Staf Verhaegen
2017-01-29 19:39                                 ` David Vorick
2017-01-28 19:43                             ` Luke Dashjr
2017-01-28 21:54                               ` Peter Todd
2017-02-06 16:24                           ` mbtc-dev
2017-02-07 20:32                             ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-28 18:22                         ` Peter Todd
2017-01-27  4:21 ` Johnson Lau
2017-01-27 18:54 ` t. khan
2017-01-27 12:12 Daniele Pinna

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