From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB95C4A4 for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:27:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148113.authsmtp.com (outmail148113.authsmtp.com [62.13.148.113]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA52D12A for ; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c247.authsmtp.com (mail-c247.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.247]) by punt21.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id v4M6R6vE024561; Mon, 22 May 2017 07:27:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from petertodd.org (ec2-52-5-185-120.compute-1.amazonaws.com [52.5.185.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id v4M6R5ld006668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 May 2017 07:27:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by petertodd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3A2C40094; Mon, 22 May 2017 06:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 35DA42003B; Mon, 22 May 2017 02:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 02:27:04 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: shaolinfry Message-ID: <20170522062704.GA29930@savin.petertodd.org> References: <2zSehquWdVTgHhfHfQpAHZTGAyzv-XFias7rRsns0j6TpJryz6Fyvst3N0v_2_Q3KsYiyRn9qd9Gb1QLUxh5F11RAlVmvezYN8d4m8q5F-A=@protonmail.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2zSehquWdVTgHhfHfQpAHZTGAyzv-XFias7rRsns0j6TpJryz6Fyvst3N0v_2_Q3KsYiyRn9qd9Gb1QLUxh5F11RAlVmvezYN8d4m8q5F-A=@protonmail.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Server-Quench: ad5c3784-3eb7-11e7-bcdf-0015176ca198 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAAUFVQNAgsB AmEbW1NeUlp7WWU7 bghPaBtcak9QXgdq T0pMXVMcUgEVB34E WkoeUh90cQ0IfXZ4 ZQgzCnUIX0NycVt+ FxxTCGwHMGB9OjNL Bl1YdwJRcQRMLU5E Y1gxNiYHcQ5VPz4z GA41ejw8IwAXAi1P WBBFFlMWS0sRAnYn Sh8dHClnFEIfSig2 Iho6Ql4B X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1038:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 52.5.185.120/25 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Barry Silbert segwit agreement X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 06:27:10 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 02:12:08AM -0400, shaolinfry via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Someone sent me a copy of the Barry Silbert agreement, an agreement forge= d between a select number of participants https://pastebin.com/VuCYteJh It's interesting how changing the bit used to signal could be used as a way= to try to trick people into changing node software ASAP to support the hard-fo= rk code. Basically, the narrative would be that other software *doesn't* suppo= rt segwit, so you have to upgrade right away. > A fourth option, first suggested to me by James Hilliard, was to make BIP= 148 miner triggered (MASF) with a lower threshold, above 50%. I coded this = up a few weeks ago https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/master...shao= linfry:segsignal but didnt get around to posting to the ML yet. This effect= ively lowers the threshold from 95% to 65% as coded, or could be upped to 8= 0% or whatever was preferable. In contrast this proposal wouldn't have that effect, because as you point o= ut it's compatibel with the existing segwit protocol once activated. Smells like political engineering to me. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZIoSzAAoJECSBQD2l8JH7+foH/0pRME4MlUl3ecUdVnEEsA1n ESSA9kH3fMWegn2sSr6Q5X5MgdNzyQaRvPb5X9bQzv2ZJwm4/Pd3MfmzkYQapek8 b3pBMKDE+OJdjrf0o6fKlMclud+Z2JZ4JTIxYy+5Mn33ZnKwJNha47e6FwPLFr+u WIQ3a2iC166xVpXg2WSzHm9LmsuiJFsMp6cKQWRGmwMZXqCZMR1XboB6r8iMA0af OfpC5WISvVH4zgDZLq79gPEUpqBhkjvRw+1BcXx89jc/vsWptdtit/VBn8a/YNG0 TqPXpTL9ouY+l7G1At72x81OhSLGr5E0xSwwzbKm6toClpS2m7BVFB9lofMgvI4= =M8+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99--