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From: Anthony Towns <aj@erisian.com.au>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 09:20:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170606232015.GA11830@erisian.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31833011-7179-49D1-A07E-8FD9556C4534@taoeffect.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 03:39:28PM -0700, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> - Mixing with 148 coinbase txns destroys fungibility.

CoinJoin works as a method of both improving fungibility and mixing with
coinbase transactions.

You probably don't need to do anything clever to split a coin though:
if you send a transaction with a standard fee it will get confirmed
in a normal time on the higher hashrate chain, but won't confirm as
quickly on the lower hashrate chain (precisely because transactions are
valid on both chains, but blocks are found more slowly with the lower
hashrate). When it's confirmed on one chain, but not on the other, you
can then "double-spend" on the lower hashrate chain with a higher fee,
to end up with different coins on both chains.

(also, no double-n in untenable)

Cheers,
aj



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-06 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 22:39 [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:02 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-06-06 23:12   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07 13:25   ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-07 16:27     ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07 17:35       ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-08  5:44         ` Conner Fromknecht
2017-06-08  6:38           ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-06 23:08 ` Luke Dashjr
2017-06-06 23:19   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:20 ` Anthony Towns [this message]
2017-06-06 23:27   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:31     ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:59     ` Kekcoin
2017-06-07  0:04       ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:19         ` Kekcoin
2017-06-07  0:26           ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:29             ` Kekcoin
2017-06-07  0:38               ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:46                 ` Kekcoin
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2017-06-06 20:43 Tao Effect

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