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From: Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware.net>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] hypothetical: Could soft-forks be prevented?
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 01:42:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170916014252.GN24183@boulet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0c98e067-dff3-988b-af66-7c624de3eef4@chainside.net>

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On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:40:12PM +0200, Simone Bronzini via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Since a soft-fork is a restriction of the consensus rules, I think the
> only way to have an un-soft-forkable cryptocurrency is creating a
> cryptocurrency where no transaction is valid.
> 

Even this can be soft-forked to add an extension block that contains transactions :)

Ultimately I think the best you can do in this direction is to design for
maximal fungibility and/or transaction structures that minimize interaction
with the blockchain. This minimizes the surface for transaction censorship,
which is somewhat in the spirit of your goal.

-- 
Andrew Poelstra
Mathematics Department, Blockstream
Email: apoelstra at wpsoftware.net
Web:   https://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew

"A goose alone, I suppose, can know the loneliness of geese
 who can never find their peace,
 whether north or south or west or east"
       --Joanna Newsom


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-16  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13  9:50 [bitcoin-dev] hypothetical: Could soft-forks be prevented? Dan Libby
2017-09-15  4:01 ` ZmnSCPxj
2017-09-15  9:14   ` Adam Back
2017-09-15 11:47     ` Tier Nolan
2017-09-15 20:01     ` Dan Libby
2017-09-15 19:55   ` Dan Libby
2017-09-15 20:40     ` Simone Bronzini
2017-09-15 21:48       ` Dan Libby
2017-09-16  1:42       ` Andrew Poelstra [this message]
2017-09-16  3:38     ` ZmnSCPxj
     [not found] ` <CADSvpf7sC-Rh0qoGKgagQV7Mo_BV6ymeadgfMzJ_oXPCTyJ6Mw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-15 20:15   ` Dan Libby
2017-09-18  6:40 Daniel Wilczynski

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