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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Rhavar <rhavar@protonmail.com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Satoshilabs secret shared private key scheme
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 20:13:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180109011335.GA22039@savin.petertodd.org> (raw)
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 07:40:38PM -0500, Rhavar via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> I think you're under-appreciating how useful the "plausible deniability". Someone I know was (solo) traveling to the United States when a border agent asked her to unlocked her phone; thumbed through her apps, ended up finding tinder and went through all her recent conversations to make sure she wasn't involved in any "pay for sex things".
> 
> In the same light, I travel frequently and constantly have my trezor on me. If I am asked to unlock it, I will have no problems doing so (as refusal will no doubt lead to deportation) and showing my personal wallet (which sadly hasn't had much use since fees became ridiculous).

Trezor's "plausible deniability" scheme could very well result in you going to
jail for lying to border security, because it's so easy for them to simply
brute force alternate passwords based on your seeds. With that, they have proof
that you lied to customs, a serious offense.

I would strongly advise you not to use it in that situation.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-09  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-08  4:22 [bitcoin-dev] Satoshilabs secret shared private key scheme Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-08  6:33 ` nullius
2018-01-08 12:39 ` Pavol Rusnak
2018-01-08 12:45   ` Peter Todd
2018-01-08 13:00     ` Pavol Rusnak
2018-01-08 19:37       ` Peter Todd
2018-01-08 22:26         ` Ben Kloester
2018-01-09  0:37           ` Peter Todd
2018-01-08 23:47   ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-09  0:40     ` Rhavar
2018-01-09  1:13       ` Peter Todd [this message]
2018-01-09 12:44         ` jens
     [not found]         ` <274aad5c-4573-2fdd-f8b0-c6c2d662ab7c@gibsonic.org>
2018-01-12  9:50           ` Peter Todd
2018-01-12 11:06             ` [bitcoin-dev] Plausible Deniability (Re: Satoshilabs secret shared private key scheme) nullius
2018-01-13  2:11               ` Damian Williamson
2018-01-13  3:44                 ` nullius
2018-01-13  6:11                   ` Peter Todd
2018-01-09 15:12     ` [bitcoin-dev] Satoshilabs secret shared private key scheme Pavol Rusnak
2018-01-10 20:28       ` Pavol Rusnak
2018-01-10 23:47         ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-11  9:55           ` Pavol Rusnak
2018-01-09 16:20   ` Russell O'Connor
2018-01-17 11:39 Ondřej Vejpustek
2018-01-17 15:28 ` Russell O'Connor
2018-01-17 15:36   ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-17 15:31 ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-18  5:00   ` Matt Corallo
2018-01-18 13:50   ` Ondřej Vejpustek
2018-01-18 14:34     ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-18 16:59       ` Ondřej Vejpustek
2018-01-18 18:58         ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-22 15:00           ` Ondřej Vejpustek
2018-01-22 19:21           ` Russell O'Connor
2018-01-23  1:05             ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-01-23 13:54           ` Ondřej Vejpustek
2018-01-23 14:16             ` Adam Back

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