From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E84A71257 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:30:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from azure.erisian.com.au (cerulean.erisian.com.au [139.162.42.226]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8E3477 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aj@azure.erisian.com.au (helo=sapphire.erisian.com.au) by azure.erisian.com.au with esmtpsa (Exim 4.84_2 #1 (Debian)) id 1erAFM-000450-R8; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:30:50 +1000 Received: by sapphire.erisian.com.au (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:30:44 +1000 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:30:44 +1000 From: Anthony Towns To: =?utf-8?B?44Ki44Or44Og44CA44Kr44O844Or44Oo44OP44Oz?= , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20180228223044.GA31415@erisian.com.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Score-int: -18 X-Spam-Bar: - X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Simple lock/unlock mechanism X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:30:53 -0000 On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 04:34:18AM +0000, アルム カールヨハン via bitcoin-dev wrote: > 1. Graftroot probably breaks this (someone could just sign the > time-locked output with a script that has no time-lock). Making the graftroot key be a 2-of-2 muSig with an independent third party that commits to only signing CLTV scripts could avoid this. Making it 3-of-3 or 5-of-5 could be even better if you can find multiple independent services that will do it. Cheers, aj