From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18B8BB94 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:22:00 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4027FF for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cmgw10.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.10]) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6021E129B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:15:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from box912.bluehost.com ([69.195.124.112]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id NeucgHcIXuj2oNeucgfZ05; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:15:58 -0700 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thecodefactory.org; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=78lxTk6v5WnaC4YPEcWgveY9CjUrUTeorigXbrQgE3I=; b=I+LK4nOAyyh0zPYJlpvLrIW5Bs jwWWurclrrptwHdnyTnt0ZCBHVoG6nzl8jlxTnC92czQGuc/ohKT74yOeFc4iwsc/NtaPa5JdUNOj QCFaswPODsBHmnMRO1oqoFyt3; Received: from [185.217.171.42] (port=37878 helo=localhost) by box912.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gNeub-003sl7-OS; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:15:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:15:10 -0500 From: Neill Miller To: Jonathan Underwood Message-ID: <20181116141510.GB11584@boiler.chaos.net> References: <20181116140335.GA11584@boiler.chaos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box912.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.linuxfoundation.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - thecodefactory.org X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 185.217.171.42 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1gNeub-003sl7-OS X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (localhost) [185.217.171.42]:37878 X-Source-Auth: neillm+thecodefactory.org X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: dGhlY29kZWY7dGhlY29kZWY7Ym94OTEyLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:57:58 +0000 Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, somber.night@protonmail.com Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:38:03 -0000 Ah, ok. I've worked with the non-BIP39 Electrum mnemonics, which have this behaviour, but haven't tried the BIP39 support within it. Thanks, -Neill. On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:05:50PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Nope. > > This is how Electrum treats BIP39 restoring as well, try it out. > > -Jon > > 2018年11月16日(金) 23:04、Neill Miller さん（neillm@thecodefactory.org）のメッセージ: > > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:17:30PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood via > > bitcoin-dev wrote: > > > If more apps would implement to the word of the BIP39 spec, multiple > > > languages make sense, but since reality is no one follows the spec (/the > > > spec is way too open to interpretation) then expecting every app to load > > > every language is unreasonable. > > > > > > Electrum actually handles BIP39 recovery the way the BIP specifies. I can > > > restore random strings if I want, and it warns me, and I can ignore it > > if I > > > wish. > > > > Electrum mnemonics are not based on BIP39, which is why it can do > > this. > > > > -Neill. > > > >