From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core to disable Bloom-based Filtering by default
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:26:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201907221726.58027.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qh2qj1$7sg4$1@blaine.gmane.org>
On Sunday 21 July 2019 22:56:33 Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> An estimated 10+ million wallets depend on that NODE_BLOOM to be
> updated.
Where do you see this number? I think it would be useful to chart.
> So far, I haven't heard of an alternative, except reading all
> transactions and full blocks.
Electrum has a JSON-based protocol that can provide information much more
efficiently.
Currently, this does require nodes that run additional software and/or
indexes, but there are plenty of them available, and there are steps that can
be taken to improve that situation.
> > It is not anticipated that
> > this will result in a significant lack of availability of
> > NODE_BLOOM-enabled nodes in the coming years
>
> Why don't you anticipate that? People almost never change defaults,
> especially if it's not for their own immediate benefit. At the same
> time, release notes in general recommend updating to the latest version.
> I *do* anticipate this will reduce the number of nodes usable by a large
> enough amount so that the feature will become unstable.
Many users run older versions, and do not update immediately. Today, only 42%
of listening nodes are using 0.18.
(If it helps ease the concern, we can keep bloom enabled by default in Knots
longer.)
> I strongly recommend postponing this change until an alternative exists
> and then give developers enough time to implement, test and roll out.
There will be time to do so, since the functionality won't disappear
overnight.
Luke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-22 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-20 17:46 [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core to disable Bloom-based Filtering by default Matt Corallo
2019-07-21 22:56 ` Andreas Schildbach
2019-07-22 5:01 ` Matt Corallo
2019-07-22 15:58 ` Justus Ranvier
2019-07-26 7:45 ` Tamas Blummer
2019-07-22 8:32 ` Peter Todd
2019-07-22 13:25 ` Jonas Schnelli
2019-07-22 17:17 ` Luke Dashjr
2019-07-22 17:26 ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2019-07-23 14:47 ` Andreas Schildbach
2019-07-24 13:11 ` Justus Ranvier
2019-07-25 3:04 ` Luke Dashjr
2019-07-26 10:04 ` Jonas Schnelli
2019-07-27 16:10 ` Matt Corallo
2019-07-26 16:48 ` Chris
2019-07-27 19:19 ` Luke Dashjr
2019-07-22 15:04 ` Tom Harding
2019-07-22 15:15 ` Dustin Dettmer
[not found] ` <FF0175BF-1D1F-4AD4-9B13-99D522DBCD83@bridge21.com>
2019-08-14 15:07 ` Matt Corallo
2019-07-22 18:52 Peter
2019-07-22 20:42 ` Greg Sanders
2019-07-22 21:17 ` Luke Dashjr
2019-07-23 20:36 ` Peter Todd
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