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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	"Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces" <arielluaces@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] UASF (LOT=true) kick off meeting - Tuesday March 2nd 19:00 UTC on ##uasf IRC channel
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 18:57:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202103021857.39275.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b56bd582-e605-4389-96ce-c1cb0c58f1ad@gmail.com>

On Tuesday 02 March 2021 18:22:35 Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> I'm realizing that a clear advantage of LOT=false is that it can happen
> without the need for a social movement. All that is really needed is the
> convincing of 95% miners. Apathetic users will never notice any kind of
> service disruption no matter the success or failure of the activation. This
> is obviously why it naturally became the default activation method.

No. Miners enforcing rules without the social support is a 51% attack, not a 
softfork.

> While LOT=true, on the other hand, must be able to 51% the blockchain to
> win the apathetic users. But then the reorgs will not be pretty. Or if it
> ever clearly gets over the 51% hurdle then all apathetic users now need to
> scramble to use the rogue client to be safe from reorgs. Either way it's
> disruptive.

No, LOT=True doesn't do this. It only happens if miners choose to create an 
invalid chain, which they could do at any time with or without a softfork 
involved.

Luke


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-02 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-01 17:47 [bitcoin-dev] UASF (LOT=true) kick off meeting - Tuesday March 2nd 19:00 UTC on ##uasf IRC channel Michael Folkson
2021-03-02 18:22 ` Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces
2021-03-02 18:57   ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2021-03-02 19:36     ` Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces
2021-03-02 20:19     ` Eric Voskuil

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