From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85987C000A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 21:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C6B41502 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 21:32:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.234 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.234 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=dtrt.org Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tyIcnSws9cbi for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 21:32:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from newmail.dtrt.org (newmail.dtrt.org [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe7b:78d1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 904BD40F93 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 21:32:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dtrt.org; s=20201208; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xI2y207e0Hx/fMreCe1gsbbqWrW7QdlxbceFR7HYVY4=; b=letkImaR0KzvDjpbSVdE1fKVv2 ux5nq+78iRE6woQ+Mth2JkQdSWg2g/u3nbUjis6JyaADEkeWMDGHoCyno54B2tHAm8aBHaIZnX//y QBwyCHRdLdX+jotHkAzDt6adPi7D2aHzt7NDsmVDx6/Cu0mwlkKVnUmGk4yrujcivUbs=; Received: from harding by newmail.dtrt.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lTtJH-0003Jb-4G; Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:32:31 -1000 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 11:31:23 -1000 From: "David A. Harding" To: Anthony Towns Message-ID: <20210406213123.l3b2zqecxxc4h2ls@ganymede> References: <20210405103452.GA15866@erisian.com.au> <20210406162216.k34aplxwznh5z25v@ganymede> <20210406194819.GA29761@erisian.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o64y3m3ixdbxytli" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210406194819.GA29761@erisian.com.au> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot Activation Meeting Reminder: April 6th 19:00 UTC bitcoin/bitcoin-dev X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 21:32:35 -0000 --o64y3m3ixdbxytli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Replies to multiple emails) On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 12:27:34PM -0400, Russell O'Connor wrote: > It isn't "$MIN_LOCKIN_TIME + $((10 * 2016)) minutes". It's > "$MIN_LOCKIN_TIME + time until next retargeting period + $((10 * 2016)) > minutes". Ah, drat, I forgot about that. Thank you for correcting my oversight! > That doesn't seem like a particularly important design goal to me? Having > a last minute two week delay seems easy to deal with =46rom my perspective, that of a person focused on communicating information that affects Bitcoin users and recommending infrastructure adjustments that should be made to accomodate those changes, I'd find having a predictable activation date to be of significant benefit. Given that, an activation scheme that could provide a tight timeline (only delayable, not accellerable, by miner shenanegeans) would be something I'd consider an advantage of that method. That said, it's probably not worth making the activation state machine more complicated for when the simplicity of the machine for height-based activations is it's chief touted benefit. 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