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From: Anthony Towns <aj@erisian.com.au>
To: Erik Aronesty <erik@q32.com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Gradual transition to an alternate proof without a hard fork.
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:47:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210417114717.GA8079@erisian.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKgJNefXZTCJk_EK4JC7uPKsTrGv=yUROpjL_7GGbfNrrvA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 04:48:35PM -0400, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> The transition *could* look like this:
>  - validating nodes begin to require proof-of-burn, in addition to
> proof-of-work (soft fork)
>  - the extra expense makes it more expensive for miners, so POW slowly drops
>  - on a predefined schedule, POB required is increased to 100% of the
> "required work" to mine
> Given all of that, am I correct in thinking that a hard fork would not
> be necessary?

It depends what you mean by a "hard fork". By the definition that
"the old software will consider the chain followed by new versions of
the software as valid" it's a soft fork. But it doesn't maintain the
property "old software continues to follow the same chain as new software,
provided the economic majority has adopted the new software" -- because
after the PoW part has dropped its difficulty substantitally, people can
easily/cheaply make a new chain that doesn't include proof-of-burn, and
has weak proof-of-work that's nevertheless higher than the proof-of-burn
chain, so old nodes will switch to it, while new nodes will continue to
follow the proof-of-burn chain.

So I think that means it needs to be treated as a hard fork: everyone
needs to be running the new software by some date to ensure they follow
the same chain.

(The same argument applies to trying to switch to a different PoW
algorithm via a soft fork; I forget who explained this to me)

Jeremy wrote:
> I think you need to hard deprecate the PoW for this to work, otherwise
> all old miners are like "toxic waste".
>
> Imagine one miner turns on a S9 and then ramps up difficulty for
> everyone else.

If it's a soft-fork, you could only ramp up the PoW difficulty by mining
more than one block every ten minutes, but presumably the proof-of-burn
scheme would have its own way of preventing burners from mining blocks
too fast (it was assumption 2).

Cheers,
aj



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-17 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-16 20:48 [bitcoin-dev] Gradual transition to an alternate proof without a hard fork Erik Aronesty
2021-04-16 21:24 ` Jeremy
2021-04-16 21:47   ` Erik Aronesty
2021-04-17 11:19 ` Devrandom
2021-04-17 11:47 ` Anthony Towns [this message]
2021-05-21 20:11   ` Billy Tetrud
2021-05-21 20:54     ` Erik Aronesty
2021-04-17  9:41 vjudeu

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