From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C025C000E for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4993C6060C for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:46:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XxJhB7AOxFfX for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:46:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:07:20 by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from smtp94.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (smtp94.ord1c.emailsrvr.com [108.166.43.94]) by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBBE860594 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:46:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-ID: peter@coinkite.com Received: by smtp12.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: peter-AT-coinkite.com) with ESMTPSA id 26635C027E; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:39:30 -0400 From: "Peter D. Gray" To: Andrew Chow Message-ID: <20210901133930.GB91472@coinkite.com> Reply-To: Peter Gray References: <20210831182741.GV91472@coinkite.com> <775f2a59-7cd7-6234-23d2-1780e2c4da58@achow101.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7UIJfHqpdi+oBJdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <775f2a59-7cd7-6234-23d2-1780e2c4da58@achow101.com> Organization: Coinkite Inc. (www.coinkite.com) X-Classification-ID: 1744c7de-7ec5-4ac8-9e00-f0d603dcd02a-1-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 13:48:07 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal for a few IANA mime-types related to Bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 13:46:57 -0000 --7UIJfHqpdi+oBJdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ... I tried doing this with "application/bitcoin-psbt" back in > 2019 but it was not accepted... Thanks for this background. Based on your experience, we should probably ignore the IANA then, and just declare a few useful "mime types" (note the quotes) in a new BIP. We can then agree inside the Bitcoin community on their usage and meaning. Anyone want to write that BIP and shepherd it? I can support you but I'd rather write code. --- @DocHEX || Coinkite || PGP: A3A31BAD 5A2A5B10 On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:46:55PM +0000, Andrew Chow wrote: > Hi Peter, >=20 > It would be nice to have mime types registered for Bitcoin things, but > I'm not sure that it will be possible, at least not in the way that we > would like. I tried doing this with "application/bitcoin-psbt" back in > 2019 but it was not accepted. From that attempt, here is what I have > learned: >=20 > There are only a few accepted top level types, so we would not be able > to use "bitcoin" as the top level (unless you want to submit an RFC to > add a "bitcoin" top level). Of the available top level types, > "application" is the most appropriate for Bitcoin. >=20 > Next is the tree that the mime type should be in. The best would be the > Standards tree, but it has some requirements that Bitcoin doesn't really > meet. In order to be in the standards tree, the registration must be > either associated with an IETF specification (so a RFC) or registered by > a recognized standards related organization. Unfortunately the closest > thing to a standards organization that Bitcoin has is the BIPs process, > and that is not a really a standards organization nor is it recognized > by IANA. So in order to register the mimetypes as Standards tree types, > we would need to write an RFC, but this could be an independent > submission (https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/) rather than > IETF-stream submission. I did not continue to pursue this because I > didn't have the time. >=20 > Another alternative would be to use the Vendor tree, but that would > prefix the mimetype with "vnd." so it would end up being something like > "application/vnd.bitcoin.psbt". I did not think this was an reasonable > so I did not continue to pursue this avenue. >=20 >=20 > Andrew Chow >=20 > On 8/31/21 2:27 PM, Peter D. Gray via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > Hi list! > > > > I am proposing to register the following MIME (RFC 2046) media types wi= th the IANA: > > > > > > bitcoin/psbt > > > > - aka. a BIP-174 file, in binary > > - does not make any claims about signed/unsigned status; lets leav= e that to the file > > > > bitcoin/txn > > > > - aka. wire-ready fully-signed transaction in binary > > > > bitcoin/uri > > > > - aka [BIP-21](https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-002= 1.mediawiki) > > - could be just a bare bech32 or base58 payment address > > - but can also encode amount, comments in URL args > > - potentially interesting as a response to 402 - Payment required > > > > > > Other thoughts > > > > - some mime-types are proposed in BIP-71 but those are unrelated to abo= ve, and never > > seem to have been registered > > > > - for those who like to encode their binary as base64 or hex, that can = be indicated > > as "encoding=3Dhex" or "encoding=3Dbase64" in the optional parameter= s, just like > > "text/plain; encoding=3Dutf-8" does. However, the default must be bi= nary. > > > > - although the above are useful for web servers, they are also useful e= lsewhere and I > > intend to use them in NFC (NDEF records) where a shorter length is c= ritical. > > > > - I have no idea how easily IANA will accept these proposals. > > > > - current approved mime types: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-t= ypes/media-types.xhtml > > > > Thoughts? > > > > --- > > @DocHEX || Coinkite || PGP: A3A31BAD 5A2A5B10 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >=20 >=20 --7UIJfHqpdi+oBJdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEERYl3mt/BTzMnU06oo6MbrVoqWxAFAmEvgo0ACgkQo6MbrVoq WxAs3wf+ILiwhQKoASk96w5NcBnxD9jSlEpgtVJDBtF7mU8g3stbfq6E2X87jJ3I hiwv1TFf6Op1jtJSk2IDvNxrNiXel1BAC7YXCRNR7DUEWU3OA4f1PWvQ/B1kpMdW 0FETB/g5UsLwYJA8pe821W56tf2YerYIeYUJr+NPpwVNEDhrJ0ZJmvrelpsamJu/ 1HkwpLXuzroBph7FtdfUGOuxalDq/8v46TwYkhih6NetuH5HC/2+xrE+FlZO3eVN 62TNKXLVqYHljIMCPUb9+79y/L8Lp3pNzC+uC8Vii+q2boKDumJVI5BFs2QSw8S6 PgUzwMZJ9ptGliWqMGLquPHNNSMynA== =8kAl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7UIJfHqpdi+oBJdT--