From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A69C001B for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC178176E for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:01:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.61 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.61 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_XBL=0.375, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=dtrt.org Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i5GmOHL6lW-G for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:01:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from newmail.dtrt.org (newmail.dtrt.org [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe7b:78d1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7942C80DEE for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:01:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dtrt.org; s=20201208; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=r3F+sdfG5ILhk7ME9jTIvVvh/uQ5wldRylR8B5RefWU=; b=EAMvJ7hudkCNid+yr5ERd3BzD2 ee3fmrzCACwRr4bQ6HADMLFVPsQ7CsF+T5th0c7U7lWT749h02rsfSkQly91aMhXd7LgMvvpiY9Fe ws+aleKBqBbJpFAB0YVd+RlR9DTVCtkHf6LW8CZrQigYjuZuWWsaFHoH6u1RtFaCPWbM=; Received: from harding by newmail.dtrt.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mN9ZL-0000CF-F9; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 22:01:31 -1000 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:54:30 -1000 From: "David A. Harding" To: Eric Voskuil Message-ID: <20210906075430.hk44gaueu3njdkl3@ganymede> References: <20210906062341.veujnjng5nw4ykv6@ganymede> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hcqlq6smls74apob" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , Billy Tetrud Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Braidpool: Proposal for a decentralised mining pool X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 08:01:34 -0000 --hcqlq6smls74apob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 09:29:01AM +0200, Eric Voskuil wrote: > It doesn=E2=80=99t centralize payment, which ultimately controls transact= ion selection (censorship). Yeah, but if you get paid after each share via LN and you can switch pools instantly, then the worst case with centralized pools is that=20 you don't get paid for one share. If the hasher sets their share difficulty low enough, that shouldn't be a big deal. I'm interested in whether braidpool offers any significant benefits over an idealized version of centralized mining with independent transaction selection. -Dave --hcqlq6smls74apob Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEgxUkqkMp0LnoXjCr2dtBqWwiadMFAmE1yTYACgkQ2dtBqWwi adPUAhAAiBFox2rxTW5mVTXMs6hHUbkpxhZ8oFJ8J/1J+qOXoFfJKQj4CvBYHAtP BVyqm3lgPw4dwZ9i/LmHzb0KrvsB1ImAlXtPXcfhFmabKdmTezpokSlUJJwWV5FR gb0CphEue+kKW5cafXMU/GWzQqBBBfc8GT7KrJkBV5CEEjmn3YTWw2hwWsXm79dw VV8DYtI4iX5kWcRuKNywZdIP9xrALqbhr5ZEvxBn+V/Mh0Y4RzsQF7KHxRWKz/uA dJXk+IEeYtMrPvKBzorvhazHkxf1kcxkYKz0RtFowU0IGZIp6YGTRQU+CUoUZsIq AB59vv12AFuEZiJIGh+v2xpXrSoe9UfpToWmMBtKAYqgXdVuccHZVnpEtepSIkLA i5Kj8TywaOWH9/sLi7Eya7bVhg01/EqiB+H+X2phmcKxkC7qZriG7FcwgSTprKzV M/iGX8ltr/ykNXjT1jZa/vgLqHrwn4pM19HAcCwuTRz3Hskqs6iffcHdHtuvEFwq AcUio0h3LMkGFXMaBf/2DZXk1hT58Q41Sihgdo2pxMAwCaj09o5O+r9d+D+HnAQy knQ9VVndUHlZi9ZEmu1nDlU+1/4ymetZQGM/57VwzATh3VBkwCjVdJjP04plNaMQ m+bpBBmCKQl0lw2TAFJuIaHslhiXweXp/ZVHfxE5BzV12X4a3hc= =//+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hcqlq6smls74apob--