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Sat, 9 Jul 2022 22:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 12:10:40 +1000 From: Tobin Harding To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: <20220710021040.GB10595@aerus> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.13.2 (2019-12-18) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:04:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Surprisingly, Tail Emission Is Not Inflationary X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 02:20:50 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, Interesting blog post.=20 On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 11:31:26AM -0400, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 08:24:51AM -0700, Eric Voskuil wrote: > > To clarify, price inflation is not caused by market production. Attribu= ting the observed lack of inflation (eg fee %) to loss is an assumed relati= on. >=20 > My article is a mathematical proof that has nothing to do with observatio= ns of > inflation. >=20 > What I did is prove that if there is tail emission/fixed supply, the coin > supply will converge towards a fixed amount because the coin supply depen= dant > rate of coin loss balances out the fixed rate of coin production. >=20 > That proof has nothing to do with market dynamics and would happen in any > system, economic or not, with similar underlying dynamics. I'm not a mathematician but I think your models assumption that coin loss is proportional to number of coins misses something, correct me if I'm wrong but as value of coins goes up is it not reasonable to expect coin loss to go down as people are more careful (not to mention improvements in tooling and education). Is it really possible to model coin loss as exponential decay considering such things (I'm not being facetious, that is a real question, like I said I'm not a mathematician)? 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